Bicycle without a solid crank?
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Kind of hard to tell exactly what you are asking. Do you mean the bottom bracket spindle does not go through from one crank-arm to the other, and both cranks are connected to gears on a shaft to keep them rotating together? I have never seen anything like that.
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There are cranks where each arm is independant, if you stop moving your left leg, the right can still pedal. Its a training tool for better spin.
There are cranks with a built-in step-down transmission to engage a lower gear. The cranks can spin faster than the chainwheel.
There are gearboxes that lie between the cranks and the chainwheel (G-BOXX), these are usually based on Rohloff style gear mechanisms.
Adding cogs and other bits adds weight, complexity and reduces efficiency so these are strictly niche products.
There are cranks with a built-in step-down transmission to engage a lower gear. The cranks can spin faster than the chainwheel.
There are gearboxes that lie between the cranks and the chainwheel (G-BOXX), these are usually based on Rohloff style gear mechanisms.
Adding cogs and other bits adds weight, complexity and reduces efficiency so these are strictly niche products.
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You can't ride a bike by flailing your legs all over the place.
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And since when has people let that get in the way of dreams and ideas?
pedalling with only one leg at a time is a fairly common training tip to improve technique as it absolutely forces you to deal with the upstroke as well.
Exactly. W/o the mechanical link you have to coordinate your movements instead.
Sure you can, look at the Alenax crank. And they're not the first. I believe similar setups have been invenvted and reinvented at least 3-4 times.
pedalling with only one leg at a time is a fairly common training tip to improve technique as it absolutely forces you to deal with the upstroke as well.
Sure you can, look at the Alenax crank. And they're not the first. I believe similar setups have been invenvted and reinvented at least 3-4 times.
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I like clipless pedals for upstroke dealing. It trains other muscles, and makes me more efficient. If my technique is wrong, I feel resistance around TDC and BDC, which is fatiguing; eliminating this automatically adds twice as much power (the resistance is caused directly by my own power input, so that power both ceases to be resistance AND becomes extra input power), which is all kinds of awesome.
Of course, for that, you have to be trying. I guess this is why bicycle rollers exist; though I also do this to get up semi-challenging hills. Maybe I should get rollers for testing the shifting systems and other stuff.
Of course, for that, you have to be trying. I guess this is why bicycle rollers exist; though I also do this to get up semi-challenging hills. Maybe I should get rollers for testing the shifting systems and other stuff.
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Or maybe you mean a lever-drive crank? This was a really old idea:

Here's another "de-coupled" crank - some videos on the site too:
https://www.powercranks.com/index.html
How do PowerCranks work?
PowerCranks are a patented training device that integrates a one-way clutch in each crank-arm. Each crank-arm will drive the chain but not each other. Imagine doing one-legged drills all the time, with each leg working independently from the other.

Here's another "de-coupled" crank - some videos on the site too:
https://www.powercranks.com/index.html
How do PowerCranks work?
PowerCranks are a patented training device that integrates a one-way clutch in each crank-arm. Each crank-arm will drive the chain but not each other. Imagine doing one-legged drills all the time, with each leg working independently from the other.
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I like clipless pedals for upstroke dealing. It trains other muscles, and makes me more efficient. If my technique is wrong, I feel resistance around TDC and BDC, which is fatiguing; eliminating this automatically adds twice as much power (the resistance is caused directly by my own power input, so that power both ceases to be resistance AND becomes extra input power), which is all kinds of awesome.
Of course, for that, you have to be trying. I guess this is why bicycle rollers exist; though I also do this to get up semi-challenging hills. Maybe I should get rollers for testing the shifting systems and other stuff.
Of course, for that, you have to be trying. I guess this is why bicycle rollers exist; though I also do this to get up semi-challenging hills. Maybe I should get rollers for testing the shifting systems and other stuff.
That was proven years ago when "Bicycling" was a decent magazine and tested the idea with strain guages in the pedals.
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Yeah, I do realize that. That's why I've developed telekinesis by occasionally toying around and lifting with my legs, but intentionally supplying no down force, climbing up hills entirely with my mind while not-really-pulling on my pedals. (what? I was bored.)
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Or maybe you mean a lever-drive crank? This was a really old idea:

Here's another "de-coupled" crank - some videos on the site too:
https://www.powercranks.com/index.html
How do PowerCranks work?
PowerCranks are a patented training device that integrates a one-way clutch in each crank-arm. Each crank-arm will drive the chain but not each other. Imagine doing one-legged drills all the time, with each leg working independently from the other.

Here's another "de-coupled" crank - some videos on the site too:
https://www.powercranks.com/index.html
How do PowerCranks work?
PowerCranks are a patented training device that integrates a one-way clutch in each crank-arm. Each crank-arm will drive the chain but not each other. Imagine doing one-legged drills all the time, with each leg working independently from the other.
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Wow! Thanks for the input. I am looking at the crank on my ebike. It is in the way of a place that would be an ideal candidate for a battery - low cog, protected from the elements, and not useful for any other thing. It is a bit of an extreme action but...sometimes the best ideas come out of looking into extreme situations and thinking outside of the box.
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