Four flats in two days?!
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Four flats in two days?!
Leaving work Monday, I get downstairs and my tire's flat.
I patch the tube and ride home.
Next morning, it's flat again. A different puncture.
I replace the tube and leave for the office.
I get a new flat on the ride to work.
Patch the tube and keep going.
I get downstairs that evening, and the tire has gone flat again. I take the train home.
What's going on? I'm pretty confident in my tube patching abilities, and every time it's been a new puncture, in a different spot in the tube. I scoured the tire for glass, rocks, anything embedded that could be causing punctures. Nada. The tubes have been fully inflated and seated properly.
Two possibilities stand out in my mind. One is that it's a 32 mm tire and the replacement tube was 25mm. But that doesn't explain the two flats on the old tube, which was a 32 mm tube. Maybe the first two flats were bad luck, and the second two were from using too small a tube? My understanding is that you can usually get away with using small tubes, but maybe I'm wrong.
The second thing I noticed is that the tire is getting pretty worn out. It's not at risk of blowing out any time soon, but there's some cracking in the sidewalls and a couple irregularities on the inside of the tire. Could having a worn tire cause so many flats so frequently?
What do you think, bikeforums? Coincidence? Bad selection of tubes? Time to replace the tire? Is there anything I'm not thinking of?
I patch the tube and ride home.Next morning, it's flat again. A different puncture.
I replace the tube and leave for the office. I get a new flat on the ride to work.
Patch the tube and keep going.I get downstairs that evening, and the tire has gone flat again. I take the train home.

What's going on? I'm pretty confident in my tube patching abilities, and every time it's been a new puncture, in a different spot in the tube. I scoured the tire for glass, rocks, anything embedded that could be causing punctures. Nada. The tubes have been fully inflated and seated properly.
Two possibilities stand out in my mind. One is that it's a 32 mm tire and the replacement tube was 25mm. But that doesn't explain the two flats on the old tube, which was a 32 mm tube. Maybe the first two flats were bad luck, and the second two were from using too small a tube? My understanding is that you can usually get away with using small tubes, but maybe I'm wrong.
The second thing I noticed is that the tire is getting pretty worn out. It's not at risk of blowing out any time soon, but there's some cracking in the sidewalls and a couple irregularities on the inside of the tire. Could having a worn tire cause so many flats so frequently?
What do you think, bikeforums? Coincidence? Bad selection of tubes? Time to replace the tire? Is there anything I'm not thinking of?
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Leaving work Monday, I get downstairs and my tire's flat.
I patch the tube and ride home.
Next morning, it's flat again. A different puncture.
I replace the tube and leave for the office.
I get a new flat on the ride to work.
Patch the tube and keep going.
I get downstairs that evening, and the tire has gone flat again. I take the train home.
What's going on? I'm pretty confident in my tube patching abilities, and every time it's been a new puncture, in a different spot in the tube. I scoured the tire for glass, rocks, anything embedded that could be causing punctures. Nada. The tubes have been fully inflated and seated properly.
Two possibilities stand out in my mind. One is that it's a 32 mm tire and the replacement tube was 25mm. But that doesn't explain the two flats on the old tube, which was a 32 mm tube. Maybe the first two flats were bad luck, and the second two were from using too small a tube? My understanding is that you can usually get away with using small tubes, but maybe I'm wrong.
The second thing I noticed is that the tire is getting pretty worn out. It's not at risk of blowing out any time soon, but there's some cracking in the sidewalls and a couple irregularities on the inside of the tire. Could having a worn tire cause so many flats so frequently?
What do you think, bikeforums? Coincidence? Bad selection of tubes? Time to replace the tire? Is there anything I'm not thinking of?
I patch the tube and ride home.Next morning, it's flat again. A different puncture.
I replace the tube and leave for the office. I get a new flat on the ride to work.
Patch the tube and keep going.I get downstairs that evening, and the tire has gone flat again. I take the train home.

What's going on? I'm pretty confident in my tube patching abilities, and every time it's been a new puncture, in a different spot in the tube. I scoured the tire for glass, rocks, anything embedded that could be causing punctures. Nada. The tubes have been fully inflated and seated properly.
Two possibilities stand out in my mind. One is that it's a 32 mm tire and the replacement tube was 25mm. But that doesn't explain the two flats on the old tube, which was a 32 mm tube. Maybe the first two flats were bad luck, and the second two were from using too small a tube? My understanding is that you can usually get away with using small tubes, but maybe I'm wrong.
The second thing I noticed is that the tire is getting pretty worn out. It's not at risk of blowing out any time soon, but there's some cracking in the sidewalls and a couple irregularities on the inside of the tire. Could having a worn tire cause so many flats so frequently?
What do you think, bikeforums? Coincidence? Bad selection of tubes? Time to replace the tire? Is there anything I'm not thinking of?
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when repairng the flats do you look to be sure something is not still lodged in the tire? are you pinchingthe tube when you put it back together?
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Last year I got 11 flats in one month. It was mostly on my road bike both front and back tires, but also on my hybrid. Except for one time it was always hard to see small pieces of glass. The only reasons I can think of was the dry weather was allowing an extra build up of road debris and my tires were worn out. It stopped after changing to Gatorskin Hardshells.
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Yep, label over the valve stem. It's hard to tell, though, if the bumps and irregularities line up with the punctures. I think not exactly.
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The second thing I noticed is that the tire is getting pretty worn out. It's not at risk of blowing out any time soon, but there's some cracking in the sidewalls and a couple irregularities on the inside of the tire. Could having a worn tire cause so many flats so frequently?
What do you think, bikeforums? Coincidence? Bad selection of tubes? Time to replace the tire? Is there anything I'm not thinking of?
What do you think, bikeforums? Coincidence? Bad selection of tubes? Time to replace the tire? Is there anything I'm not thinking of?
Replace the tire and see if the flats don't stop.
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is the tire is close to worn out just replace it.
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All the above advice is good above do you live in an area with goat heads? if so this is the time of the year for them.
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Assuming it is the tire, is it normal for tires to go from no flats to a ton of flats? You would think that the number and frequency of flats would increase more slowly. The tire has had one flat in the past three months and then all of sudden four flats in two days?
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Assuming it is the tire, is it normal for tires to go from no flats to a ton of flats? You would think that the number and frequency of flats would increase more slowly. The tire has had one flat in the past three months and then all of sudden four flats in two days?
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I once had a series of flats. I tracked the problem down to an almost invisible sliver of glass beneath the surface of the tire. The sliver did not show from the outside or the inside of the tire and I could not feel it. I found it by flexing the tire sharply under a magnifying inspection light.
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Four flats in two days isn't a common occurence. In addition, you seem to have ruled out the most likely causes of frequent flats (pinched tube, glass remaining in the tire, migtated rim strip).
That causes me to wonder what is unusual. You say your tire is old and has cracked sidewalls. If it was my bike, I'd buy a new tire. My bet is that'll fix it.
I once had something caught in the tire of my beater bike that I never did find. After fixing a few flats (all in the same place) I cut the valve stem out of an old inner tube and installed that as a tire liner. It worked but, eventually, I acquired some extra money and replaced the tire. I never did find what was causing the flats, but it was worth the cost of a new tire to eliminate the problem.
That causes me to wonder what is unusual. You say your tire is old and has cracked sidewalls. If it was my bike, I'd buy a new tire. My bet is that'll fix it.
I once had something caught in the tire of my beater bike that I never did find. After fixing a few flats (all in the same place) I cut the valve stem out of an old inner tube and installed that as a tire liner. It worked but, eventually, I acquired some extra money and replaced the tire. I never did find what was causing the flats, but it was worth the cost of a new tire to eliminate the problem.
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You most likely need to replace the tape that goes around the inside of your wheel rim -- or at least check it carefully to make sure your punctures aren't coming from your spoke ends. Been there, done that. rcd
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Maybe you are riding over some finely ground glass or other such crap?Car wreck debris or construction debris that some idiot in a pickup just let drop all over the road?
Those goatheads are nasty- if you live in a goat head burr area-they are the WORST FLAT PRODUCERS I have ever encountered-Flagstaff AZ taught me that lesson 10 years ago- 15 punctures in 6 tires in just 400 yards)
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Those goatheads are nasty- if you live in a goat head burr area-they are the WORST FLAT PRODUCERS I have ever encountered-Flagstaff AZ taught me that lesson 10 years ago- 15 punctures in 6 tires in just 400 yards)
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Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires .. they put the tire liner puncture protection In the tire casing.
Tire liner strips shift inside the tire with every rotation,
inflation needs to be rock hard to reduce it, grinder wheel tapers the edges of the ends,
I do that when we sell, and Install them in the bikeshop.
that also reduces the wearing a hole in the tube from the end of the tire liner problem.
Reduce, extends the time.. not eliminate.
Tire liner strips shift inside the tire with every rotation,
inflation needs to be rock hard to reduce it, grinder wheel tapers the edges of the ends,
I do that when we sell, and Install them in the bikeshop.
that also reduces the wearing a hole in the tube from the end of the tire liner problem.
Reduce, extends the time.. not eliminate.
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I'm pretty sure that it's the tire being worn. There are a number of spots where the threads are exposed that seem to line up pretty well with the punctures. They're not sharp, but I can envision a situation where the roughness caused by the exposed threads is grabbing onto the tube and causing a flat. I've already ordered a new tire, but just to be sure, I'm going to try covering the exposed threads with patches and seeing if that does the trick.






