Question about shifters and derailleurs
#1
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 49
Likes: 1
From: LA, California
Bikes: Trek 1.1
Question about shifters and derailleurs
So I am really a noob when it comes to bike mechanics, especially when it comes to index /friction shifters and derailleurs. Are there specific index and friction derailleurs? Can someone replace index shifters with friction ones and keep the same derailleurs? How can you tell if a uninstalled derailleur is index or friction?
#2
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,646
Likes: 2
From: Salinas , Ca.
Bikes: Bike Nashbar AL-1 ,Raligh M50 , Schwinn Traveler , and others
Index is in the shifters only ,it doesn't matter to the derailleurs . Yes you can replace index shifters with friction ones ,the same derailleurs will work with both.
#3
Banned.
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 937
Likes: 3
Bikes: CCM Torino 76
So I am really a noob when it comes to bike mechanics, especially when it comes to index /friction shifters and derailleurs. Are there specific index and friction derailleurs? Can someone replace index shifters with friction ones and keep the same derailleurs? How can you tell if a uninstalled derailleur is index or friction?
For Shimano, almost all index compatible derailleurs work with almost all indexed shifters. With Campagnolo I believe the derailleurs are made to match a specific number of speeds and the appropriate shifter. Sram MTB rear derailleurs must be used with Sram MTB shifters, but the front mtb derailleurs will work with shimano shifters.
THere are more exceptions and notable points but I am too lazy to continue.
#5
Senior Member


Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 30,225
Likes: 649
From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
I don't think that any of the previous answers is 100% right.
1. It's easy to determine an index shifter. It will have distinct detents that you can feel as you work it through it's motions. You can feeld the detents even if it's not connected to a derailleur.
2. Friction shifters will work with any derailleur. I suppose itls possible to find a shifter that doesn't have the travel to operate some derailleur, but I've never encountered that.
3. Index shifting means the shifter has detents that pull exactly the right amount of cable to move the derailleur over 1 cog space. For that to work everything (shifter, derailleur, cable housing, cassette) has to match. Some components match across brands and some don't. Some Sram shifters will index a Shimano derailleur and some won't. In addition to the above, the cassette spacing of different numbers of rear cogs has changed so your shifter has to match the number of cogs on your cassette.
1. It's easy to determine an index shifter. It will have distinct detents that you can feel as you work it through it's motions. You can feeld the detents even if it's not connected to a derailleur.
2. Friction shifters will work with any derailleur. I suppose itls possible to find a shifter that doesn't have the travel to operate some derailleur, but I've never encountered that.
3. Index shifting means the shifter has detents that pull exactly the right amount of cable to move the derailleur over 1 cog space. For that to work everything (shifter, derailleur, cable housing, cassette) has to match. Some components match across brands and some don't. Some Sram shifters will index a Shimano derailleur and some won't. In addition to the above, the cassette spacing of different numbers of rear cogs has changed so your shifter has to match the number of cogs on your cassette.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JoeHigh
Bicycle Mechanics
8
09-08-14 02:57 PM
pobre
Bicycle Mechanics
7
03-09-10 08:05 PM





