Front wheel lateral play - how much is normal?
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Front wheel lateral play - how much is normal?
This is my first road bike so I don't have much experience, but if with one hand I hold the handlebar and with the other hand I move the front wheel to the sides (as shown in the picture) it moves laterally what I think is significant. So, before I take it to the LBS for not real reason, how much is it considered normal and what should be an indication of something not being properly adjusted?
By the way, the bike is a Scott CR1 Elite 2010, and the wheels are Mavic Ksyrium Elite.
Thanks!
[Edit] Sorry for the first picture, I was only trying to shown how I was moving it. This one is more representative of how much it actually moves.
By the way, the bike is a Scott CR1 Elite 2010, and the wheels are Mavic Ksyrium Elite.
Thanks!
[Edit] Sorry for the first picture, I was only trying to shown how I was moving it. This one is more representative of how much it actually moves.
Last edited by flyingKing; 10-23-11 at 01:10 PM. Reason: Wrong pic
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Would you say it's flexing or clunking around loose? It should flex a little but there should be absolutely no free play, and the bearings should only be a hair tighter than the adjustment that takes out the slop. The axle should only have free play when the quick release is removed which should vanish when the wheel is clamped in. Unless of course the Ksyriums have cartridge bearings, which cannot be adjusted.
If you have been riding around with the bearings loose, they're probably shot.
If you have been riding around with the bearings loose, they're probably shot.
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If there's free play (not just flexing of the spokes) the hub's bearings are loose and need adjusting.
There should be zero play in wheels, especially the front. At the very least wheel play degrades handling, and at the worst it will increase hub bearing wear.
Unless you've really been putting lot's of miles on the wheel with loose bearings, I doubt there's any damage to the hub or the bearings yet, so a simple adjustment is probably all it needs. If you're a bit more conscientious you can field strip the hub (if it's serviceable) then clean. lube and reassemble the bearing and be good for the next 5,000 miles or so.
There should be zero play in wheels, especially the front. At the very least wheel play degrades handling, and at the worst it will increase hub bearing wear.
Unless you've really been putting lot's of miles on the wheel with loose bearings, I doubt there's any damage to the hub or the bearings yet, so a simple adjustment is probably all it needs. If you're a bit more conscientious you can field strip the hub (if it's serviceable) then clean. lube and reassemble the bearing and be good for the next 5,000 miles or so.
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Ksyrium hubs use sealed bearings that require occasional adjustment using a Mavic hub spanner and a 5mm (or is it a 6?) Allen wrench. A standard pin spanner works, too.
Your shop should be able to fix this in about 10 minutes.
Your shop should be able to fix this in about 10 minutes.
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You do not need a shop to do this. The Mavic hub spanner (or as pointed out in post #5, a pin spanner) is all you need. No need for an Allen wrench, except if stripping and lubing the Mavic FTS-L Freehub, which requires a 5 and 10mm Allen Wrench. However, that is another story.
Get a plastic Mavic hub spanner from your bike shop (mine gave it to me for free) and mount the wheel in the fork, then use the spanner in tightening the bearing until snug (not tight), then back up about an eight of a turn.
There should be no play.
You can search the web/Youtube on how to adjust Mavic FTS-L hub bearings. The Mavic website also has instructions on doing same.
Good luck.
Get a plastic Mavic hub spanner from your bike shop (mine gave it to me for free) and mount the wheel in the fork, then use the spanner in tightening the bearing until snug (not tight), then back up about an eight of a turn.
There should be no play.
You can search the web/Youtube on how to adjust Mavic FTS-L hub bearings. The Mavic website also has instructions on doing same.
Good luck.
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^^ Thanks everybod
I found the Mavic spanner that came with the bike and adjusted the hub and now the play is much less (I also bragged to my wife about my first "bike repair" but she just ignored me
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I'll keep an eye on it and if things get back to where they were I'll take it to the LBS for further review.
I found the Mavic spanner that came with the bike and adjusted the hub and now the play is much less (I also bragged to my wife about my first "bike repair" but she just ignored me
. I'll keep an eye on it and if things get back to where they were I'll take it to the LBS for further review.
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Either way, you have absolutely nothing to gain by showing off mechanical expertise.
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#9
You got off easy. NEVER, EVER BRAG TO YOUR WIFE ABOUT SUCCESSFUL BIKE REPAIR. Knowing you're newly discovered skill she'll immediately come up with a list of home repairs. Or go the other way, saying something like, "Since you're so mechanical, why haven't you fixed the ....... yet?!"
Either way, you have absolutely nothing to gain by showing off mechanical expertise.
Either way, you have absolutely nothing to gain by showing off mechanical expertise.
. Otherwise, yeah - I wouldn't advertise it.
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From the horses mouth. https://www.tech-mavic.com/tech-mavic...nt_QRMPlus.pdf





