Cracks in Aluminum Frames..
#26

I believe the phrase you're seeking is "facial reconstructive surgery".
#28
DCB0 - I don't think you have ever welded anything in your life.
The OP describes the crack as small. Applying a welding bead across it poses minimal risk.
The OP describes the crack as small. Applying a welding bead across it poses minimal risk.
#29
I can assure you I have worked with a number of different metals and
joining systems. I also understand at least the rudiments of metallurgy,
and in particular how it applies to bike frames and components. I
can probably still put shoes on a horse, but it's been some years,
and alloy shoes don't last very long.

I believe you genuinely misunderstand the welding process, the effects
it has on the areas adjacent to the weld, and the heat treating process
in the case of thin wall aluminum tubes. You also seem to lack some
appreciation of the stresses involved in the area in question. I don't
think you intentionally mean to hurt anyone, but the road to hell is paved ........................
#30
You make it sound like the entire integrity of the tube would be compromised by the application of 19mm long welding bead and that is simply not the case. I know that this bead would be laid down in less that a second and the heat generated would have only a minimal impact on the surrounding material. The important thing is to stop the propagation of the crack. Will it be strong as original? No, but it may never be an issue again after the repair. I think the OP can access that risk.
#31
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You make it sound like the entire integrity of the tube would be compromised by the application of 19mm long welding bead and that is simply not the case. I know that this bead would be laid down in less that a second and the heat generated would have only a minimal impact on the surrounding material. The important thing is to stop the propagation of the crack. Will it be strong as original? No, but it may never be an issue again after the repair. I think the OP can access that risk.
FWIW, I have learned to TIG weld, stick weld, MIG weld, and OA braze and weld. I have little experience actually applying these techniques outside of the welding class, but I have some idea how and when to apply them... you seem not to.
#32
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Bikes: Fuji Cross Comp, BMC SR02, Surly Krampas
DCB0 - you err in your wisdom. You realize that this forum has no room for logic or science when it comes to assessing the properties of materials. You would do better to say: "Yea, I'd jest grab a stick and weld 'er up, and ride the hail out uv it!"
#33
spathfinder34089
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Washington State
Bikes: fuji s12s, Schwiin Le Tour, Puegot mtn. bike, Hiawatha crusier
I pretty much know, My bike is trashed . Right..? I have what appears to be a crease on the side of my top tube , on the side mid-way between the seat post and the head tube.. It's about 19 mm in length and deep enough I can insert my thumb nail into it.. I will not know for sure if its a crack or a scratch until I remove the paint.. ?.. Once it appeared as just a scratch , but now the fold appears to be deeper..?
I hate this because I have an appreciation of Klein's for historic value.. Would my love of Klein bikes be worth attempting to repair my top tube or just a total waste of money. Should what appears to be a cracked frame be a real crack.
My club members say they know of a good Tig welder at some shop... .. Even so.. ? It would still be a waste..?
Thanks..
I hate this because I have an appreciation of Klein's for historic value.. Would my love of Klein bikes be worth attempting to repair my top tube or just a total waste of money. Should what appears to be a cracked frame be a real crack.
My club members say they know of a good Tig welder at some shop... .. Even so.. ? It would still be a waste..?
Thanks..
Klein is owned by Trek now, so you may need to go thru them. good luck






