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Old 03-27-12 | 01:04 AM
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Installing Tire Liners

I got some "light" Mr Tuffy tire liners for my mountain bike, and I'm having trouble keeping them in place during tire mounting. I did partially inflate the tube hoping to hold the liner in place, but the liner still slips around. I'm considering glueing them in place, and have 3 options at hand; 1. Rubber cement. 2. Shoe Goo. 3. Cool melt hot glue. I'm favoring rubber cement, as it would be the least permanent.
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Old 03-27-12 | 01:09 AM
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If you're talking about rim tape, I don't think any type of adhesive would be a good idea :/ They're supposed to stay put even when you're installing tubes and tires.
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Old 03-27-12 | 04:22 AM
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the rim tape I'm used to has always bit slightly sticky and a tiny bit elastic so try pulling it tighter and be sure to overlap the end a tiny bit so it sticks to itself. you can I suppose cheat a little and use a tiny bit of making tape to hold the ends together.

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Old 03-27-12 | 05:18 AM
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I think the OP is referring to tire liners which go between the tube and tire on the tread side, to help avoid flats, not rim tape.
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The OP is not talking about "rim tape" but is asking about puncture protective "Mr Tuffy" liners. To install: Mount one side of tire on rim, install tire liners with the ends opposite the valve hole in the rim (much easier if the rim is laying flat, parallel to the ground), install tube slightly inflated, reposition liner if necessary, finish mounting tire and inflate fully, deflate tire until tube is empty or almost empty, go around the outside of your tire using a two finger pinching motion to make sure the liner is still in place (you may be able to feel the edges of the liner from the outside of the tire if the tire walls are thin enough). You can manipulate the liner in place by using the pinching method if necessary. Inflate and ride. After awhile the liner tends to stick to the tire so you won't have to go through this routine each time you change a tube. It gets easier with practice.
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oh, duh, sorry
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Abundant talc.. roll the assembled tire, around
before inflating .. pressing the tire down like riding on a flat.
that may let your tire liner center itself .. inside the casing..

the liner end abrades a hole in the tube over time, so tube being also heavy duty
may lengthen the time between those mystery flats.
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1. I take the tire completely off of the rim and lay it on the floor.
2. Put just enough air in the inner tube to give it shape and stuff the inner tube into the tire.
3. Stuff your Mr Tuffy (or whatever) between the tire and the tube.
4. Starting at the valve stem, install the assembly onto your rim.
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Originally Posted by Crankycrank
The OP is not talking about "rim tape" but is asking about puncture protective "Mr Tuffy" liners. To install: Mount one side of tire on rim, install tire liners with the ends opposite the valve hole in the rim (much easier if the rim is laying flat, parallel to the ground), install tube slightly inflated, reposition liner if necessary, finish mounting tire and inflate fully, deflate tire until tube is empty or almost empty, go around the outside of your tire using a two finger pinching motion to make sure the liner is still in place (you may be able to feel the edges of the liner from the outside of the tire if the tire walls are thin enough). You can manipulate the liner in place by using the pinching method if necessary. Inflate and ride. After awhile the liner tends to stick to the tire so you won't have to go through this routine each time you change a tube. It gets easier with practice.
I've used these before, but the thicker ones which IIRC stay put. I shall try your techninique, thanks.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Abundant talc.. roll the assembled tire, around
before inflating .. pressing the tire down like riding on a flat.
that may let your tire liner center itself .. inside the casing..

the liner end abrades a hole in the tube over time, so tube being also heavy duty
may lengthen the time between those mystery flats.
I'd like to avoid the heavy duty tubes if at all possible. I'm trying for the lightest solution to make my tires puncture proof. We have these awful goat-head thorns all over the place, and previously had success with heavy tubes + liners. This is sort of an experimental run with a liner only.
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Originally Posted by WickedThump
I'd like to avoid the heavy duty tubes if at all possible. I'm trying for the lightest solution to make my tires puncture proof. We have these awful goat-head thorns all over the place, and previously had success with heavy tubes + liners. This is sort of an experimental run with a liner only.
+1 can understand your feelings about the evil goat heads around Denver. As for The tuffy's they do help a lot but can be hard to mount the first couple of times. Just mount get them the whole way around the inside of the tire fairly even then mount tires and tubes as normal. I have been running Tuffy's more than 20's years with no mounting problems running rims tires from 23mm to 2.50.
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Schwalbe Marathon Plus puts what is in effect a Mr Tuffy under the tread
out side of the casing.
so the tube does not see an end at the overlap, of a strip,
that moves a little, against the tube, each time the wheel rolls.

I'd frequently inspect your tubes and replace them early, where convenient,
so the abrasion hole wont make a air leak when It's not convenient.
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I left the Mr Tuffys in the sun for awhile and that took the curl and I think they're in properly. Going for a ride later.
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lately, i've resorted to sliding the ultra lite Mr. Tuffy liners in AFTER half the tire is on AND the tube is in the tire. mine happen to be the very narrow ones. just takes a little trial and error...
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I live in goat head territory (NM) and struggled with tire liners for a while. I was never satisfied with how I was able to install them. In frustration I glued them in with some 3M super 77 with talc on the tubes. Another time I stuck them in with some double sided scotch tape. Both ways worked good except the liners didn't stop the goatheads.

I gave up on all of that and for the last few years I've just used cheap 100 psi Cheng Shin tires and cheap tubes with some slime. The 3 or 4 hours a week I sometimes spent dealing with flats is now additional time spent happily pedaling my bike.
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