Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Replace bearings when repacking hub?

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Replace bearings when repacking hub?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-15-12 | 03:11 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Full Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 212
Likes: 3
From: Harvest, AL

Bikes: Trek 1000C, Raleigh M50

Replace bearings when repacking hub?

I decided to overhaul the hubs on my road bike (Trek 1000C). The front has pitted cones, but the races looked good, so I'm just replacing the cones and bearings. On the rear everything looks good (bearings, races, cones). While I have the rear apart, should I go ahead and replace the bearings? What's the consensus on replacing bearing that show no signs of problems? I have the bearings. They're cheap, so that's not the problem. Do bearings "take a seat" to the cones & races (like brake pads)? Meaning that the new ones might loosen up after a few hundred miles.
bemoore is offline  
Reply
Old 04-15-12 | 03:18 PM
  #2  
blamp28's Avatar
Bikaholic
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,461
Likes: 0
From: Western, Michigan

Bikes: Trek Fuel 90, Giant OCR, Rans Screamer Tandem

I generally will replace them if they have a few seasons on them. They cost very little and you allready have the hub apart.
blamp28 is offline  
Reply
Old 04-15-12 | 04:29 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN

Bikes: '86 Trek Elance 400; '83 Trek 520; 90s Specialized Crossroads, '84 Trek 610 (wife's), 90s Trek Multitrack (wife's), Cargo Trailers, Burley for the Kids, WeeHoo Trailer

I also always replace them if I open the hub up. This seems to be the conventional wisdom. However, I don't have a way to reliably measure bearing or their smoothness to know if there are issues only with the bearings. When I have rough wheels, it always seems to be pitting in the cones...not bearings.
vins0010 is offline  
Reply
Old 04-15-12 | 07:09 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 428
Likes: 3
From: SF Bay Area

Bikes: 2003 Lemond Zurich; 1987 Schwinn Tempo; 1968 PX10; 1978 PX10LE, Peugeot Course; A-D Vent Noir

Originally Posted by blamp28
I generally will replace them if they have a few seasons on them. They cost very little and you allready have the hub apart.
That's how I see it. New ball bearings will set you back a couple of bucks at most. And since there is no easy way to measure the old bb's for wear, replacement should be a no-brainer...
neurocop is offline  
Reply
Old 04-15-12 | 07:22 PM
  #5  
kc0yef's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,394
Likes: 20
From: OZARKS
If the ball bearings are not Shiny even the slightest bit dull replace them if they look shiny new leave em in unless your going on a tour.
I just finished servicing some Campagnolo hubs all shiny so back in and I always lightly foil the hubs with aluminum foil.
The Aluminum foil will show you exactly how much wear is on the cone because the race where it is worn will turn grey immediately even after a few hundred miles..
I wrap the axle in duct tape or use and old axle then put the cones on and spin while holding aluminum foil on it. it takes about 1 second to see the wear...
Then I wipe it off and either replace or reuse.
__________________
riding
kc0yef is offline  
Reply
Old 04-15-12 | 07:25 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,239
Likes: 8
From: Bay Area, Calif.
I replace them if I have the bearings available. Otherwise I go by their appearance after being cleaned of residual grease. If they're nice and shiny they should be ok to reuse. If they look dull then I'll go buy replacements before putting the hub back together.
prathmann is offline  
Reply
Old 04-16-12 | 03:05 AM
  #7  
Bill Kapaun's Avatar
Really Old Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,653
Likes: 1,895
From: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun

Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3

For a dollar/wheel, it's not worth the time to clean, inspect and hope you didn't miss something + you keep your hands a lot cleaner.
Clean grease washes of the hands with cheap bar soad.
Dirty grease doesn't.
Just wipe out the old grease with a used paper towel you drained your bacon on that morning.
Bill Kapaun is offline  
Reply
Old 04-16-12 | 10:01 AM
  #8  
kc0yef's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,394
Likes: 20
From: OZARKS
Bill
I don't miss anything it's 9 or 10 or 11 bearings I use two magnets and I like to know the condition of my stuff... bearing wear would indicate cone wear.
It is interesting That I take a class from a well respected builder and racer he has no trouble getting his hands dirty neither do I I actually touch the chain when I clean it without gloves!

Also that's Just LAZY why replace what does not need to be replaced? I wish we could use bacon grease for bicycles the Men's Room would love to hear that story... Maybe I'll try that just for fun...


Flame on

Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
For a dollar/wheel, it's not worth the time to clean, inspect and hope you didn't miss something + you keep your hands a lot cleaner.
Clean grease washes of the hands with cheap bar soad.
Dirty grease doesn't.
Just wipe out the old grease with a used paper towel you drained your bacon on that morning.
__________________
riding
kc0yef is offline  
Reply
Old 04-16-12 | 10:09 AM
  #9  
ThermionicScott's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Using a magnet to extract/manipulate the BBs, you run the risk of magnetizing them, causing them to attract ferrous wear particles in the vicinity. New BBs are so cheap, it's a no-brainer.
ThermionicScott is offline  
Reply
Old 04-16-12 | 02:06 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 33,657
Likes: 1,119
From: Pittsburgh, PA

Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!

Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Using a magnet to extract/manipulate the BBs, you run the risk of magnetizing them, causing them to attract ferrous wear particles in the vicinity. New BBs are so cheap, it's a no-brainer.
I don't know if magnetizing the balls is a real problem or just theoretical. However, while I use a magnet to be sure all of the old balls have been removed I position the new ones with a large pair of tweezers.
HillRider is offline  
Reply
Old 04-17-12 | 12:53 PM
  #11  
Thread Starter
Full Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 212
Likes: 3
From: Harvest, AL

Bikes: Trek 1000C, Raleigh M50

Thanks for the comments. All bearings have been replaced. I finally have my road bike road worthy again. Now if the weather would just cooperate....
bemoore is offline  
Reply
Old 04-17-12 | 03:21 PM
  #12  
Bill Kapaun's Avatar
Really Old Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,653
Likes: 1,895
From: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun

Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3

Originally Posted by kc0yef
Bill
I don't miss anything it's 9 or 10 or 11 bearings I use two magnets and I like to know the condition of my stuff... bearing wear would indicate cone wear.
It is interesting That I take a class from a well respected builder and racer he has no trouble getting his hands dirty neither do I I actually touch the chain when I clean it without gloves!

Also that's Just LAZY why replace what does not need to be replaced? I wish we could use bacon grease for bicycles the Men's Room would love to hear that story... Maybe I'll try that just for fun...


Flame on
I get my hands dirty quite often, but I'm not stupid enough to do it if not necessary!
Why waste time & solvent?
I can look at the bearing race in the hub to see if there's a "wear" problem!
Do you you use an "organic" cleaner and then wash the old grease down the drain?
Bill Kapaun is offline  
Reply
Old 04-17-12 | 09:34 PM
  #13  
kc0yef's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,394
Likes: 20
From: OZARKS
Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
I get my hands dirty quite often, but I'm not stupid enough to do it if not necessary!
+1
Originally Posted by HillRider
I don't know if magnetizing the balls is a real problem or just theoretical. However, while I use a magnet to be sure all of the old balls have been removed I position the new ones with a large pair of tweezers.
+1
__________________
riding
kc0yef is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
WGB
Bicycle Mechanics
16
10-25-17 12:49 PM
gauvins
Bicycle Mechanics
2
11-10-15 02:29 AM
hoyc
Bicycle Mechanics
19
03-31-13 12:47 PM
Amesja
Classic & Vintage
30
03-22-11 06:44 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.