Using an IGH as a mid-drive
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Using an IGH as a mid-drive
What is involved in converting an IGH into a mid-drive? I've seen many examples, which usually have the sprocket in the area where a spoke flange would be.
Are there special sprockets that bolt to the flange, or, are only certain hubs available with shells designed for use as mid-drives?
Are there special sprockets that bolt to the flange, or, are only certain hubs available with shells designed for use as mid-drives?
#2
I've seen cogs that bolt to the flange, but I don't know off hand where to get them. You can buy Sturmey Archer hubs already set up as gear boxes, complete with reverse.
https://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/6/id/46
https://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/6/id/46
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You can make or purchase cogs that have the standard disc brake (a.k.a. 'disk break') six-bolt mount. With one, any std. disc IGH can be used as a mid-drive if the chain line can be arranged.
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pretty much how it works , primary chain goes to the hub's cog,
a secondary chain is attached to the hub shell..
Rohloff uses a 4 bolt pattern for the disc mount, and there are chainrings for that pattern in common,
then the second chain goes to the left side of a lefty hub.
Another German company, Pinion, has further developed a mid drive to have frames built around it..
It internally resembles a small motorcycle transmission, 18 ratios..
1 builder:https://www.en.tout-terrain.de/bicycles/silkroad-xplore/
the Sturmey (and Shimano) 3 speed hubs with a Cog on the hub shell
are used on adult upright tricycle builds .
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Wabac in the JFK early 60's father of a friend , used a similar thing
though it needed to be fabricated in the shop, [he made prosthetic limbs as a business]
On a regular DF bike the hub went up at the top of the seatstay,
second chain went to another 3 speed in the hub.
a secondary chain is attached to the hub shell..
Rohloff uses a 4 bolt pattern for the disc mount, and there are chainrings for that pattern in common,
then the second chain goes to the left side of a lefty hub.
Another German company, Pinion, has further developed a mid drive to have frames built around it..
It internally resembles a small motorcycle transmission, 18 ratios..
1 builder:https://www.en.tout-terrain.de/bicycles/silkroad-xplore/
the Sturmey (and Shimano) 3 speed hubs with a Cog on the hub shell
are used on adult upright tricycle builds .
***

Wabac in the JFK early 60's father of a friend , used a similar thing
though it needed to be fabricated in the shop, [he made prosthetic limbs as a business]
On a regular DF bike the hub went up at the top of the seatstay,
second chain went to another 3 speed in the hub.
Last edited by fietsbob; 07-15-12 at 07:46 PM.
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Contact United Bicycle Supply or Bike Tools Etc. about availability of the trike/quad hubs:
https://www.unitedbicyclesupply.com/i...s&tc=Quad_Hubs
https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...s&tc=Quad-Hubs
I think they're the same company- UBS is wholesale, Bike Tools Etc. is retail.
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They are known as "Tomicogs": https://tomicog.blogspot.com/
Contact United Bicycle Supply or Bike Tools Etc. about availability of the trike/quad hubs:
https://www.unitedbicyclesupply.com/i...s&tc=Quad_Hubs
https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...s&tc=Quad-Hubs
I think they're the same company- UBS is wholesale, Bike Tools Etc. is retail.
Contact United Bicycle Supply or Bike Tools Etc. about availability of the trike/quad hubs:
https://www.unitedbicyclesupply.com/i...s&tc=Quad_Hubs
https://www.biketoolsetc.com/index.cg...s&tc=Quad-Hubs
I think they're the same company- UBS is wholesale, Bike Tools Etc. is retail.
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Yeah. When I last talked to them, they said they often don't know what's coming until they open the container.
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I'd just buy an off the shelf Sturmey Archer gearbox. They're mostly intended for use on delta trikes so can be found with a reverse gear feature- when you pedal backwards, you move backwards in low gear.








