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Old 09-10-12 | 10:10 AM
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I'm considering a 1985 Nishiki Prestige and want to install newer wheels that I already own. I want to keep the Nishiki drivetrain, including the Suntour front and rear derailleurs and the downtube friction shifters. The Nishiki has a six speed freewheel on a 126mm wide hub with 700c rims.

The modern rear wheel I want to use has a 130mm wide Shimano 5600 105 hub. I'll cold set the frame to 130mm if needed.

I would like to use a new cassette, but use the older drivetrain. Will a 7, 8 or 9 speed cassette play nice with the old 6 speed parts? I'm sure a new chain will be needed.
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Yes, they should work acceptably. Cold setting should not be required. You'll get crisper shifting up front if you replace the old rings with 9/10 speed ones, but it will shift OK as is.

Remember that the shift lever needs to move a much shorter distance to shift the rear cogs.
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I friction shift 8-speed cassettes all the time, nines are still too pricey for this cheap bastard. Usually don't bother cold-setting for the 126-130 jump either.
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If I go with an 8 speed cassette, what chain is best? I'll keep the existing crankset and chainrings.
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I dunno if it's the best but I usually go for PC-850.
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You may have difficulty with frame clearance on the small cog when you add a 9-speed cassette. I'd get it all set up before you commit to the chain. Extra narrow may be necessary.
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Yes, they should work acceptably. Cold setting should not be required. You'll get crisper shifting up front if you replace the old rings with 9/10 speed ones, but it will shift OK as is.

Remember that the shift lever needs to move a much shorter distance to shift the rear cogs.
While cold-setting may not be required, it de-stresses the stays in the long run. I failed to cold-set a similar frame when going from 126 to 130 and after several hundred (maybe 1000) miles, it developed cracks where the stays meet the seat tube.
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I dunno if it's the best but I usually go for PC-850.
PC-870 is shinier. I doubt it's any better, but there's that.
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I'm not observant enough to see any performance improvement from 830-850-870, so I usually just aim for the middle
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I'm not observant enough to see any performance improvement from 830-850-870, so I usually just aim for the middle
I didn't pay any attention to the part numbers until I went to put a new 850 on my road bike, looked over at the chain on my fixed-gear and went, "Aww man, that one looks better..."
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