Why does clamped on FD still exist?
#26
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Engineers dont think abbout changing there product. you have to break the motor mount loose and jack the motor up to change the plugs in a 67 cougar,etc. and frame biulders consider them selves artists,also. they dont think about using a diff chainring or FD when they place the bottom water bottle gromet.
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I have a 63T chainring on my ICE Sprint 26" trike. I don't use it often, but why would a builder put on a braze-on for the 1%?
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I had a '68 Dodge Dart GTS 340 and you had to jack it up and remove the driver's side front wheel to change the left side sparkplugs. And don't get me started on oil filter accessibility on so many cars. As you said, the designers don't have to work on what they design.
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My Schlumpf, Planetary,, 2 speed crank shifts while stopped, or bogged down on a hill climb,
combined with the SA 3 speed I can shift both at once, which I Must do between 3rd and 4th, of 6.
BTW, Hyhuu, that improved thing is a band to braze-on adapter, already sold..
but note, the mount to the round frame tube is still a band clamp.
.. have another idea? start a company, making them.
combined with the SA 3 speed I can shift both at once, which I Must do between 3rd and 4th, of 6.
BTW, Hyhuu, that improved thing is a band to braze-on adapter, already sold..
but note, the mount to the round frame tube is still a band clamp.
.. have another idea? start a company, making them.
The thing is I don't necessarily think that's an "improvement" but more of a progression just like many other features on the bike, especially with the carbon craze. The current design seems to work very well but it gotta be the most crude part of the bike.
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Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
Going along with this idea, bikes with odd, non-circular seattubes could indeed have two threaded holes, say rivnuts or similar installed on the seattube and the manufacturer's could provide two or more replicable bolt-on tabs with different dimensions to cover a range of large chainrings. The main problem with the current "braze-on" tabs is they are permanently brazed or riveted to the frame and, therefore, not sufficiently adjustable.
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Geez, some of us don't run front derailleurs. No need to ruin a perfectly good frame with an unused FD tab or mount brazed on to it. I'm a IGH fan myself, sounds like something that might get in the way of my chain-guard.
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Do you want to turn this thread into a ten-page circle-jerk?!
To answer, serviceability, theoretically they handle the loads better, and they're cheaper while still doing the same job (they must be, or department-store BSOs would have cartridges not the cup-and-cone setups they do have).
To answer, serviceability, theoretically they handle the loads better, and they're cheaper while still doing the same job (they must be, or department-store BSOs would have cartridges not the cup-and-cone setups they do have).
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