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calamarichris 05-21-13 10:29 AM

Chain Thong
 
Anyone else try a chain thong?
I finally installed one on my beater bike, and am hoping it'll keep the chain cleaner and last longer.
Most of the schmutz that contaminates a chain is stuff that is thrown up by the front tire. -Sheldon Brown

http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...hainthong1.jpg
http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...hainthong2.jpg

It looks like hell, but it doesn't weigh much and the enclosed chain on my Dutch opafiets has lasted for more than 20 years now.
http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...locomotief.jpg

Will report back after a few hundred miles. :)

KenshiBiker 05-21-13 10:35 AM

First time I've seen one. Where'd you get it?

calamarichris 05-21-13 10:37 AM

Clicky. http://www.calamarichris.com/smiley/ohyeah.gif

ka0use 05-21-13 10:50 AM

well, i thought i wanted one. looks great in the pics (bike, too!).
it is plastic. i'd much prefer aluminum, and cable ties don't fare
well in winter here. gimme a serious clamp.

doco 05-21-13 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by ka0use (Post 15649910)
well, i thought i wanted one. looks great in the pics (bike, too!).
it is plastic. i'd much prefer aluminum, and cable ties don't fare
well in winter here. gimme a serious clamp.

here ya go

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...hainguard.html

papaish 05-21-13 02:41 PM

Just out of curiosity, why do you have your cables crossed under the down tube?

TrojanHorse 05-21-13 03:03 PM

California cross! It's obligatory if you live in California.

http://sheldonbrown.com/cables.html#crisscross

It improves the cable routing from the shifters to the cable stops on the downtube.

calamarichris 05-21-13 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 15650881)
California cross! It's obligatory if you live in California.

http://sheldonbrown.com/cables.html#crisscross

It improves the cable routing from the shifters to the cable stops on the downtube.

Not my choice and I wouldn't have done it. A bearded retrogrouch did it when my frame was replaced under warranty.

Reynolds 05-21-13 05:28 PM

You have a PowerMeter on your beater bike?

Airburst 05-21-13 05:57 PM

I've got a chain thong too, but I don't think the OP and I are referring to the same thing ;)


On a more sensible note, that does seem like a good idea, it probably wouldn't work in the presence of huge amounts of muck, but on a road bike it'd probably have enough of an effect to be noticeable.



Originally Posted by calamarichris (Post 15651251)
Not my choice and I wouldn't have done it. A bearded retrogrouch did it when my frame was replaced under warranty.


Why not? I've got several bikes set up with the California Cross in place, it makes the curve of the cables so much smoother!

TheReal Houdini 05-21-13 06:39 PM

You have schmutz on your rollers?

davidad 05-21-13 06:41 PM

The crud on the chain comes from the inside in the form of metal wear and oil.

Looigi 05-22-13 08:25 AM

I'm not sure it will do much. Any stuff coming off the front wheel is still going to hit the lower portion of the ring and bottom run of the chain. And, without a full coverage rear fender, much of dirt and crap that gets on the chain when riding in the wet comes from the rear wheel. You can see it piled on top of the BB, chain stays, and even FD.

FBinNY 05-22-13 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by davidad (Post 15651687)
The crud on the chain comes from the inside in the form of metal wear and oil.

Not quite. While some of that is wear by product, the vast majority is road dust.

There simply isn't that much wear byproduct, and it's in the form of superfine dust and in any case wouldn't migrate to the outside of the plates. One glance at a chain and it's obvious that what's glued to the outside isn't superfine metal dust.

calamarichris 05-22-13 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Reynolds (Post 15651431)
You have a PowerMeter on your beater bike?

Yep. It's my sufferbike, the one I sweat on. My beater. Been neglecting it for a while, but that's about to change after breaking up with the gf.


Originally Posted by TheReal Houdini (Post 15651679)
You have schmutz on your rollers?

Yep. The headwind fan keeps me pretty cool, but I still drip a fair amount of sweat on my rollers. And tears & drool sometimes. Rollers (with Killer Headwind resistance unit) are for training, not for displaying.


Originally Posted by davidad (Post 15651687)
The crud on the chain comes from the inside in the form of metal wear and oil.

Based on the Sheldon Brown link above and my own experience, I disagree. As a test, I'm going to put a thin coat of heavy/sticky gear oil on the front of the chain thong to demonstrate how much dirt flies up off the front tire. I'll take a pic of it and post it next week.

ka0use 05-22-13 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by doco (Post 15650466)

wooooooo, lookin' good! thanks!

ksisler 05-22-13 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by calamarichris (Post 15649837)
Anyone else try a chain thong? I finally installed one on my beater bike, and am hoping it'll keep the chain cleaner and last longer.
Most of the schmutz that contaminates a chain is stuff that is thrown up by the front tire. -Sheldon Brown

It looks like hell, but it doesn't weigh much and the enclosed chain on my Dutch opafiets has lasted for more than 20 years now. Will report back after a few hundred miles. :)

OP: Well I guess we can agree on one thing with you; it looks like hell. Suggest might consider a pair of fenders with mudflaps. They work really well and will also capture the carpet fuzz and cat hair that gets kicked up by the roller [;)

noglider 05-22-13 10:10 AM

This is an informative thread. I should get my wife a chain thong or a chain guard, because she gets a chain mark on her leg every single time she rides.

I never read about that criss-cross idea. I might try that, too.

calamarichris 05-22-13 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by ksisler (Post 15653831)
OP: Well I guess we can agree on one thing with you; it looks like hell. Suggest might consider a pair of fenders with mudflaps. They work really well and will also capture the carpet fuzz and cat hair that gets kicked up by the roller [;)

Hardy-harhar. :) Familiarity is a magician that is cruel to the beautiful and kind to the ugly, and it'll become less ugly to me if it means my chains last a long time. :thumb: Going to be taking the beater bike out on the road more this summer. We don't really get much rain here in North San Diego County, but the downside to that is the roads don't get the natural rinse of a good rain now and then.

TallRider 05-22-13 11:39 AM

in addition to the powermeter, I also observe that you have Dura Ace on your beater bike


Originally Posted by Airburst (Post 15651536)
I've got a chain thong too, but I don't think the OP and I are referring to the same thing ;)

For the win


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 15653891)
This is an informative thread. I should get my wife a chain thong or a chain guard, because she gets a chain mark on her leg every single time she rides.

Most people don't advertise wanting their wife to have a chain thong, on bikeforums

FBinNY 05-22-13 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by TallRider (Post 15654272)
in addition to the powermeter, I also observe that you have Dura Ace on your beater bike

Some people have very high standards.

Whatever you do, please don't ask to see a photo of the good bike.

calamarichris 05-22-13 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by TallRider (Post 15654272)
in addition to the powermeter, I also observe that you have Dura Ace on your beater bike

Yeah, but most of those components on my beater are from 2005. 7800 is all I have on my bikes, and the dang stuff never seems to wear out (Except for the dirty chains of course, which is the reason for trying the thong. haha)
http://www.calamarichris.com/junk/11...nproject09.jpg
http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...ok-dropins.jpg
http://www.calamarichris.com/images/...es-sprocke.jpg

Edit: And it's not high standards, just a lack of car payments, alimony, child support, kids, and pretty soon mortgage. http://www.calamarichris.com/smiley/ohyeah.gif

TallRider 05-22-13 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by FBinNY (Post 15654296)
Some people have very high standards.
Whatever you do, please don't ask to see a photo of the good bike.

@FBinNY, you had to go there.
That said, I enjoyed seeing the pictures of the bikes. And glad to know that Dura Ace is living up to its name on the durability side.

@calamarichris, I like your stable of bikes. It looks as if you're almost as tall as I am. I also have some nice older steel frames built up with newer (but not quite as new, or expensive) parts.

SJX426 05-22-13 12:23 PM

In rebuilding a CrissCross, I did the cable cross. Made sense to me, didn't know if others had done it or not! Yes I do make sure the right hand controls the front brake too!

TrojanHorse 05-22-13 12:27 PM

I don't think california crossing makes much sense for older shimano with the external shift cables but it definitely makes the routing better for under the tape style shifters and an internally routed frame.


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