Chain Thong
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Chain Thong
Anyone else try a chain thong?
I finally installed one on my beater bike, and am hoping it'll keep the chain cleaner and last longer.
Most of the schmutz that contaminates a chain is stuff that is thrown up by the front tire. -Sheldon Brown


It looks like hell, but it doesn't weigh much and the enclosed chain on my Dutch opafiets has lasted for more than 20 years now.

Will report back after a few hundred miles.
I finally installed one on my beater bike, and am hoping it'll keep the chain cleaner and last longer.
Most of the schmutz that contaminates a chain is stuff that is thrown up by the front tire. -Sheldon Brown


It looks like hell, but it doesn't weigh much and the enclosed chain on my Dutch opafiets has lasted for more than 20 years now.

Will report back after a few hundred miles.
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California cross! It's obligatory if you live in California.
https://sheldonbrown.com/cables.html#crisscross
It improves the cable routing from the shifters to the cable stops on the downtube.
https://sheldonbrown.com/cables.html#crisscross
It improves the cable routing from the shifters to the cable stops on the downtube.
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California cross! It's obligatory if you live in California.
https://sheldonbrown.com/cables.html#crisscross
It improves the cable routing from the shifters to the cable stops on the downtube.
https://sheldonbrown.com/cables.html#crisscross
It improves the cable routing from the shifters to the cable stops on the downtube.
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I've got a chain thong too, but I don't think the OP and I are referring to the same thing 
On a more sensible note, that does seem like a good idea, it probably wouldn't work in the presence of huge amounts of muck, but on a road bike it'd probably have enough of an effect to be noticeable.
Why not? I've got several bikes set up with the California Cross in place, it makes the curve of the cables so much smoother!

On a more sensible note, that does seem like a good idea, it probably wouldn't work in the presence of huge amounts of muck, but on a road bike it'd probably have enough of an effect to be noticeable.
Why not? I've got several bikes set up with the California Cross in place, it makes the curve of the cables so much smoother!
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I'm not sure it will do much. Any stuff coming off the front wheel is still going to hit the lower portion of the ring and bottom run of the chain. And, without a full coverage rear fender, much of dirt and crap that gets on the chain when riding in the wet comes from the rear wheel. You can see it piled on top of the BB, chain stays, and even FD.
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There simply isn't that much wear byproduct, and it's in the form of superfine dust and in any case wouldn't migrate to the outside of the plates. One glance at a chain and it's obvious that what's glued to the outside isn't superfine metal dust.
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Yep. It's my sufferbike, the one I sweat on. My beater. Been neglecting it for a while, but that's about to change after breaking up with the gf.
Yep. The headwind fan keeps me pretty cool, but I still drip a fair amount of sweat on my rollers. And tears & drool sometimes. Rollers (with Killer Headwind resistance unit) are for training, not for displaying.
Based on the Sheldon Brown link above and my own experience, I disagree. As a test, I'm going to put a thin coat of heavy/sticky gear oil on the front of the chain thong to demonstrate how much dirt flies up off the front tire. I'll take a pic of it and post it next week.
Yep. The headwind fan keeps me pretty cool, but I still drip a fair amount of sweat on my rollers. And tears & drool sometimes. Rollers (with Killer Headwind resistance unit) are for training, not for displaying.
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Anyone else try a chain thong? I finally installed one on my beater bike, and am hoping it'll keep the chain cleaner and last longer.
Most of the schmutz that contaminates a chain is stuff that is thrown up by the front tire. -Sheldon Brown
It looks like hell, but it doesn't weigh much and the enclosed chain on my Dutch opafiets has lasted for more than 20 years now. Will report back after a few hundred miles.
Most of the schmutz that contaminates a chain is stuff that is thrown up by the front tire. -Sheldon Brown
It looks like hell, but it doesn't weigh much and the enclosed chain on my Dutch opafiets has lasted for more than 20 years now. Will report back after a few hundred miles.

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This is an informative thread. I should get my wife a chain thong or a chain guard, because she gets a chain mark on her leg every single time she rides.
I never read about that criss-cross idea. I might try that, too.
I never read about that criss-cross idea. I might try that, too.
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Familiarity is a magician that is cruel to the beautiful and kind to the ugly, and it'll become less ugly to me if it means my chains last a long time.
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in addition to the powermeter, I also observe that you have Dura Ace on your beater bike
For the win
Most people don't advertise wanting their wife to have a chain thong, on bikeforums
Most people don't advertise wanting their wife to have a chain thong, on bikeforums
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"c" is not a unit that measures tire width
"c" is not a unit that measures tire width
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Edit: And it's not high standards, just a lack of car payments, alimony, child support, kids, and pretty soon mortgage.
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That said, I enjoyed seeing the pictures of the bikes. And glad to know that Dura Ace is living up to its name on the durability side.
@calamarichris, I like your stable of bikes. It looks as if you're almost as tall as I am. I also have some nice older steel frames built up with newer (but not quite as new, or expensive) parts.
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In rebuilding a CrissCross, I did the cable cross. Made sense to me, didn't know if others had done it or not! Yes I do make sure the right hand controls the front brake too!
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I don't think california crossing makes much sense for older shimano with the external shift cables but it definitely makes the routing better for under the tape style shifters and an internally routed frame.





