Anybody like............
#1
Anybody like............
wrenching as much as actually cycling? I love to wrench and work on my bike. Don't ask why I just do. In fact I find once I have purchased a new bike I never hardly take it to the LBS where I have lifetime tunes because I much rather do it myself. Sort of a meditation to me.............those who are like me I guess get it.
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From: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
There's something zen like about working on a bike. You focus on the job at hand, and forget other distractions. I'm sure there are lots of folks here who absolutely love working on bikes.
OTOH - at some point people move on from this and love working on bikes less or not at all.
It would be interesting to know when and how the love died. I suspect that pro is a common factor. That and maybe internal cable routing.
OTOH - at some point people move on from this and love working on bikes less or not at all.
It would be interesting to know when and how the love died. I suspect that pro is a common factor. That and maybe internal cable routing.
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#3
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Wrenching is almost always fun and relaxing, but that actual riding part seems to always involve uphills, which are never fun.
I'm not the best wrencher in the world (I still learn new stuff from BF all the time), but I do enjoy it a lot. I had so much fun buying the parts for and building (rather assembling) my own bike, I would never consider buying a whole stock bike again. I dream of someday retiring (early?) and founding a bike co-op, which I think more of are sorely needed in San Diego. (I've only heard of two: Bikes Del Pueblo, and a co-op at SDSU, both of which are very far from me)
I'm not the best wrencher in the world (I still learn new stuff from BF all the time), but I do enjoy it a lot. I had so much fun buying the parts for and building (rather assembling) my own bike, I would never consider buying a whole stock bike again. I dream of someday retiring (early?) and founding a bike co-op, which I think more of are sorely needed in San Diego. (I've only heard of two: Bikes Del Pueblo, and a co-op at SDSU, both of which are very far from me)
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Wrenching is almost always fun and relaxing, but that actual riding part seems to always involve uphills, which are never fun.
I'm not the best wrencher in the world (I still learn new stuff from BF all the time), but I do enjoy it a lot. I had so much fun buying the parts for and building (rather assembling) my own bike, I would never consider buying a whole stock bike again. I dream of someday retiring (early?) and founding a bike co-op, which I think more of are sorely needed in San Diego. (I've only heard of two: Bikes Del Pueblo, and a co-op at SDSU, both of which are very far from me)
I'm not the best wrencher in the world (I still learn new stuff from BF all the time), but I do enjoy it a lot. I had so much fun buying the parts for and building (rather assembling) my own bike, I would never consider buying a whole stock bike again. I dream of someday retiring (early?) and founding a bike co-op, which I think more of are sorely needed in San Diego. (I've only heard of two: Bikes Del Pueblo, and a co-op at SDSU, both of which are very far from me)
I like working on my bikes. I like it even more that I no longer work in a shop and I can afford all the neat parts that I could only drool on when I was in the industry.
One of my friends has made a living in the bike business. He's my hero: https://www.efficientvelo.com/about/
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From: Pearland, Texas
Bikes: Cannondale, Trek, Raleigh, Santana
Cyclelogical, All of my wrenching is so I can ride.
Maintenance: PIA, but has to be done.
Builds: Planning is cheap and fun. The build is fun. The result can be less than expected, as expected and better than expected. Experience creates more of the latter.
Riding: The most fun of all, even counting the bad days.
I guess my answer is no, wrenching isn't as fun as riding.
Brad
Maintenance: PIA, but has to be done.
Builds: Planning is cheap and fun. The build is fun. The result can be less than expected, as expected and better than expected. Experience creates more of the latter.
Riding: The most fun of all, even counting the bad days.
I guess my answer is no, wrenching isn't as fun as riding.
Brad
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Cyclelogical, All of my wrenching is so I can ride.
Maintenance: PIA, but has to be done.
Builds: Planning is cheap and fun. The build is fun. The result can be less than expected, as expected and better than expected. Experience creates more of the latter.
Riding: The most fun of all, even counting the bad days.
I guess my answer is no, wrenching isn't as fun as riding.
Brad
Maintenance: PIA, but has to be done.
Builds: Planning is cheap and fun. The build is fun. The result can be less than expected, as expected and better than expected. Experience creates more of the latter.
Riding: The most fun of all, even counting the bad days.
I guess my answer is no, wrenching isn't as fun as riding.
Brad
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From: Merry Land
Bikes: Guru Evolo R, Colnago Pista, Look AL 464P SS, various frankenbikes
You sound like a perfect candidate to build your own wheels. Talk about a Zen-like experience.....
I like to do it with some classical music in the background. My favorite set I've assembled is a pair of 32 spoke track wheels on Dura Ace track hubs, with 14g straights on the drive side and 15/17 on the non-drive and front. I've put them through their paces over the years and they still roll as true as ever.
I like to do it with some classical music in the background. My favorite set I've assembled is a pair of 32 spoke track wheels on Dura Ace track hubs, with 14g straights on the drive side and 15/17 on the non-drive and front. I've put them through their paces over the years and they still roll as true as ever.
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You sound like a perfect candidate to build your own wheels. Talk about a Zen-like experience.....
I like to do it with some classical music in the background. My favorite set I've assembled is a pair of 32 spoke track wheels on Dura Ace track hubs, with 14g straights on the drive side and 15/17 on the non-drive and front. I've put them through their paces over the years and they still roll as true as ever.
I like to do it with some classical music in the background. My favorite set I've assembled is a pair of 32 spoke track wheels on Dura Ace track hubs, with 14g straights on the drive side and 15/17 on the non-drive and front. I've put them through their paces over the years and they still roll as true as ever.
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From: England, currently dividing my time between university in Guildford and home just outside Reading
Bikes: Too many to list here!
I'll admit that I do love tinkering with bikes almost as much as riding them. However, when I'm working on a bike, it's always either with the aim of making something that's nice to ride or keeping something that way, so I suppose it's a means to an end.
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From: Pearland, Texas
Bikes: Cannondale, Trek, Raleigh, Santana
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Bikes: RANS Stratus TerraTrike Tour II
I worked 47 years on office machines and computers. Working on my bikes comes naturally. Usually about Feb (im in the snowbelt) I do a complete inspection, adjustment, and replacement of parts as necessary. That insures me that during the riding season I will not have a break down that leaves me on foot.
Compared to some of the machines I worked on bikes are about as simple as you can get. Everyone that rides should be able to do basic maintence to keep their bikes reliable. BTW I only ride bents both a bike and a trike. When I read that some bike shops wont work on a bent, I find it really stupid, since they to are very simple machines. Basically the only difference is the frame.
Compared to some of the machines I worked on bikes are about as simple as you can get. Everyone that rides should be able to do basic maintence to keep their bikes reliable. BTW I only ride bents both a bike and a trike. When I read that some bike shops wont work on a bent, I find it really stupid, since they to are very simple machines. Basically the only difference is the frame.
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
My wrenching isn't much of an activity of its own as a compliment to my riding. I do it to keep my bikes in good repair, working properly and to make the components last as long as possible. That said, it is rewarding, lets me speck my bikes exactly to my needs and is a great time and money saver. Yes, it saves time. Consider the time needed to take your bike to the LBS, either wait for the repairs to be done or leave the bike and make a second trip to get it back.
Also, knowing how to repair bikes assures the most problems on the road won't strand you or your riding companions. For example, I carry a small chain tool and a master link with me. I've never needed them for my own bikes but they've bailed out a couple of others. Done properly, you won't have to buy the beer that evening.
Also, knowing how to repair bikes assures the most problems on the road won't strand you or your riding companions. For example, I carry a small chain tool and a master link with me. I've never needed them for my own bikes but they've bailed out a couple of others. Done properly, you won't have to buy the beer that evening.
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Oh, woe is us. It hasn't rained in the Portland area for nearly a month. What's the world coming to?
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From: STS
Bikes: Leader 725, Centurion Turbo, Scwhinn Peloton, Schwinn Premis, GT Tequesta, Bridgestone CB-2,72' Centurion Lemans, 72 Raleigh Competition
I think I actually used to enjoy wrenching more than riding... 20 something bikes later, wrenching is still fun but it's just a means to the end which is riding.
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From: Pearland, Texas
Bikes: Cannondale, Trek, Raleigh, Santana
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Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
for the uninitiated --- https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/monitor.html
Question, --- when they compute the drought levels, are those in absolute terms, or based on what's normal for the region?
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An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
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An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
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From: Pearland, Texas
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FB, The figures are based on the average rainfall in a certain area for a given amount of time. There are long and short term values which can be confusing. For example early this year, February I think we were for the short term not in a drought condition, but long term we were still in a D2 level drought, IIRC.
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From: San Diego
Bikes: Surly CrossCheck, Krampus
wrenching as much as actually cycling? I love to wrench and work on my bike. Don't ask why I just do. In fact I find once I have purchased a new bike I never hardly take it to the LBS where I have lifetime tunes because I much rather do it myself. Sort of a meditation to me.............those who are like me I guess get it.

* Start fixing/tuning bikes for all your friends, for free, or for something nominal like $20
* Start trolling garage sales and get a new hobby as a bike flipper
* Volunteer at, or found, your local bike co-op
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Can we still burn the infidel? Please?
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From: Arizona
Bikes: '86 Miyata 1000, '85 Raleigh Elkhorn (retired), 2000 Specializer HardRock
I enjoy working on my bicycles as much as I do riding them. I always considered a certain amount maintenance/repair skills was endemic to the sport/commuting rider. After all performing field repairs to get back home was always a useful skill. At what level one takes that skill is a little more suited to the individual. It does bring a certain level of confidence and make riding more enjoyable.
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My wrenching isn't much of an activity of its own as a compliment to my riding. I do it to keep my bikes in good repair, working properly and to make the components last as long as possible.
Also, knowing how to repair bikes assures the most problems on the road won't strand you or your riding companions.
Also, knowing how to repair bikes assures the most problems on the road won't strand you or your riding companions.
I think people who don't do any kind of work or activity with their hands are really missing something fundamental to the specie. I am a knowledge worker (as opposed to a carpenter or mechanic), and I really derive a lot of satisfaction from working with my hands, and of course, being into cycling, it is only natural that working on my bikes follows.
It could be gardening or whatever, but working with your hands is extremely therapeutic, calming, and of course, you can see (and admire) the results of your action relatively quickly.
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Zip tie Karen
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From: Fair Oaks Ranch, TX
Bikes: '13 Motobecane Fantom29 HT, '16 Motobecane Turino Pro Disc, '18 Velobuild VB-R-022, '21 Tsunami SNM-100
Riding >> Wrenching. Sorry.
That said, there are very few folks that I would allow to work on any of my bikes. I'm thinking of only two mechanics with whom I'm familiar that I'd trust...
That said, there are very few folks that I would allow to work on any of my bikes. I'm thinking of only two mechanics with whom I'm familiar that I'd trust...
Last edited by Phil_gretz; 07-22-13 at 11:07 AM. Reason: Clarification.
#24
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From: Spokane, WA
Bikes: Specialized Sequoia Elite/Motobecane Fantom Cross Team Ti/'85 Trek 520
I love working on bikes as much as I do riding them. I like having project bikes that need to be put together. I also enjoy the hunt of cheap yet quite good parts and the satisfaction of putting together a bike that was 800-1800 dollars new for under a hundred or two.
#25
I like wrenching but I am a procrastinator and my work space is messy. It's best when I start a project to have clean surface, and that means cleaning up before starting, so stuff gets delayed and all I end up doing is lubing the chain and waiting for things to get critical before starting repairs. But I do like the meditative aspect of wrenching my bikes.
But it is in the service of riding that I do it, not just for its own sake. I even like climbing hills...in the heat.
But it is in the service of riding that I do it, not just for its own sake. I even like climbing hills...in the heat.





