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Old 08-17-13 | 06:04 PM
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'89 Deore DX and 2012 XT compatible?

I'm frankenbiking a 2005 JTS frame with a 1989 Deore DX drive train from a DB Apex. The original DX front derailleur didnt fit the seat tube so I got a 2012 XT front derailluer to use. The indexing seems off a little or it could be my inexperience. Should the old shifter work with the new derailleur?
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Old 08-17-13 | 06:21 PM
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Using a '10 speed' or Dynasys derailleur won't work. Just get an 8 or 9 speed alivio, deore, xt etc derailleur.

Also make sure the cable is fixed in the groove correctly.

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Just get an 8 or 9 speed alivio, deore, xt etc derailleur

It's a 3x7, and the XT front is a 3 speed that came off a 3x7 bike. There's sufficient range. Not sure what I need to look for.
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Old 08-17-13 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedThump
Just get an 8 or 9 speed alivio, deore, xt etc derailleur

It's a 3x7, and the XT front is a 3 speed that came off a 3x7 bike. There's sufficient range. Not sure what I need to look for.
Dynasys has utterly ruined cross-compatability over groups, but dynasys is more about the rear shifting. And, of course, other wretched crap, such as directional chains . My main concern would be that the front paralellogram will be too narrow for whatever chain you're using. But, I also suspect that you may be running into trouble as regards a top-swing/bottom swing incompatibility issue....

But, wait, the XT front came off a 3x7 bike? Or a 3x10?
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3x7
Every part of the drive train including the chain and cluster was transplanted from a DB Apex. The only odd piece is the XT front.
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I'm confused. The DX stuff came from the DB, and it's 3x7. That makes total sense. But the mismatched XT front is a 2012, and it came from a 3x7 bike too?? Or it's designed for a 3x10, and you bought it new?
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Isn't 1989 kind of early for indexed front shifting? I would switch it to friction mode if possible.
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1989 should be standard drive, all current MTB parts are compact, and have been since around 1992ish, so a 2012 XT FD probably wouldn't even have the correct T count on the crank; then there is the issue of is the XT FD a 2x or 3x as you haven't mention this.

For indexing, pretty sure I had a Rapidfire (not current Rapidfire+) STI on a bike from around this time which was indexed.

For direction chains, were talking MTB, so it's a non-issue.
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What size is your seat tube O.D.? I might have a derailleur that fits. PM me.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Isn't 1989 kind of early for indexed front shifting? I would switch it to friction mode if possible.
I had a '90 DB Apex I bought new, and the index shifting, front and back, was impressively good. To me anyway. That was the reason I jumped on a garage queen for $125, for it's DX components. I get some funny looks, (flat bars on a cross bike), but I like the configuration.
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Originally Posted by jimc101
1989 should be standard drive, all current MTB parts are compact, and have been since around 1992ish, so a 2012 XT FD probably wouldn't even have the correct T count on the crank
That might be the issue right there. The crankset is 46-36-24. I don't think it's the compact variety.
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How does the FD cage look against the big ring?
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Originally Posted by Kimmo
How does the FD cage look against the big ring?
Seems fine. The cage looks to have a somewhat larger diameter than the big ring.
I have to see if the co-op is open today. Might get an expert to look at it.
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