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Gramercy 09-30-13 12:17 PM

How do you clean your chain?
 
I've only actually wiped it down once and have about 500 miles on it, so it's black and disgusting. The last time I used an old T shirt and just threw it away because it was covered in soot after cleaning it. Would paper towels do the trick as washing a cloth with this much dirt would be useless? I noticed the bike isn't shifting as smoothly as it used to and I figured this may be the reason.

TrojanHorse 09-30-13 12:30 PM

Paper towels will probably just fall apart on you. Get some cheap shop towels at an auto parts store or maybe Home Depot or something, and just use those.

If you want to do a really good job, take the chain off the bike and soak/clean it in solvent. There are lots of theories about chain lube but I haven't touched mine in 1,000 miles and it just got noisy in the last 50 miles or so. It's coming off the bike for a nice spa treatment today and getting rotated with my backup chain.

techsensei 09-30-13 12:39 PM

Assuming you just have the factory lube, you could clean it thoroughly and switch to a cleaner dry lube. If your chain has a removable link, I would take it off, put it in a empty mayonnaise jar filled with solvent, and shake, shake, shake. That will get rid of 90% of the gunk. You can use a rag and a toothbrush to get rid of the last 10%. If your chain doesn't have a removable link, I would cut it and install one.

I wouldn't automatically assume your chain isn't shifting as smoothly because the chain is black. It is more likely that in 500 miles that the cable ferrules and such have bedded more fully (otherwise called "cable stretch"), and the gears are need of a minor cable tension adjustment.

ben4345 09-30-13 01:50 PM

Most of the time, I just use a shop rag and wipe it off. If it gets really gritty and dirty I will just remove the chain and shake in some mineral spirits.

loxx0050 09-30-13 02:02 PM

I have a bunch of old cotton undershirts that I have a stockpile of to clean up stuff like chains/cassettes and the occasional spill in the garage (they used to have 4 normal openings to start with and were really white in color). Just spray on some mineral spirits and wipe away the chain, chainring, cassette and rear derailleur sprockets when I clean it.

caloso 09-30-13 02:16 PM

I lube my chain every hundred miles or so and wipe off the excess with an old t-shirt. Lube, wipe, ride, repeat ad infintum.

pvillemasher 09-30-13 02:23 PM

I use Dawn dishwashing detergent and a Park Tools chain cleaner. Then I lube it with a decent lube.
Takes 5 minutes.

http://toolmonger.com/2009/05/11/bike-chain-cleaner/

bici_mania 09-30-13 02:42 PM

When I got into cycling the shop guys always told me to only use bike specific cleaners to avoid stripping grease oil from places that regular soap would wash out.

A few years ago when I started commuting I got in the habit of wiping my chain everyday to avoid black chain marks on my slacks or leg.

If cleaning your chain is going to waste an entire t-shirt my recommendation is to remove it and soak the entire chain in a bowl of 3-in-oil overnight. Pull it out, wipe it dry with a shop rag or t-shirt. Clean your chain ring and gears before re-installing and then once installed, wipe it again. Wipe you chain after every ride and oil as needed. It's kind of like brushing your bikes teeth every night. You bike will look better and perform better and your chain will last a lot longer.

eja_ bottecchia 09-30-13 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Gramercy (Post 16117876)
I've only actually wiped it down once and have about 500 miles on it, so it's black and disgusting. The last time I used an old T shirt and just threw it away because it was covered in soot after cleaning it. Would paper towels do the trick as washing a cloth with this much dirt would be useless? I noticed the bike isn't shifting as smoothly as it used to and I figured this may be the reason.

Install a Missing Link (or a similar item) on your chain to make removal of the chain easier. Then remove the chain from the bike, dip it into a container filled with enough chain cleaner to over the chain. I use Park's citrus cleaner, it is pretty good and safer for the environment than other products. Depending on how dirty your chain is, rinse and repeat until chain is clean. Re-install chain, lube it (don't over lube it). You should be fine.

BTW, I doubt that your chain was covered in soot. From the Wiki: Soot /ˈsʊt/ is impure carbon particles resulting from the incomplete combustion of hydrocarbons. It is more properly restricted to the product of the gas-phase combustion process but is commonly extended to include the residual pyrolyzed fuel particles such as coal, cenospheres, charred wood, petroleum coke, and so on, that may become airborne during pyrolysis and that are more properly identified as cokes or chars. Soot is theorized to be the second largest cause of global warming.[SUP]

Good luck.

Ride often, ride safely.
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bikepro 09-30-13 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by Gramercy (Post 16117876)
I've only actually wiped it down once and have about 500 miles on it, so it's black and disgusting. The last time I used an old T shirt and just threw it away because it was covered in soot after cleaning it. Would paper towels do the trick as washing a cloth with this much dirt would be useless? I noticed the bike isn't shifting as smoothly as it used to and I figured this may be the reason.

When in doubt, I always look to Sheldon Brown for advice: http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

zvez 09-30-13 03:44 PM

I use a small bit of wd40 on a shop towel (I'm lucky, I get unused cotton towels from the surgery packs in our cath lab, have stacks of em, if they get really nasty I just toss). Don't overdo with the wd 40, you can also use kerosene. Wipe down until dry and then applly the chain lube, my lbs gave me a dry lube to try.

I've used a zillion differen lubes over the years on my motorcycles.

I'm actually thinking of trying this dupont teflon chain saver I use on my bikes. It's really easy to work with and minimum fling. http://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Teflon-...on+chain+saver

CycleRail 09-30-13 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by loxx0050 (Post 16118227)
I have a bunch of old cotton undershirts that I have a stockpile of to clean up stuff like chains/cassettes and the occasional spill in the garage (they used to have 4 normal openings to start with and were really white in color). Just spray on some mineral spirits and wipe away the chain, chainring, cassette and rear derailleur sprockets when I clean it.

+1

caloso 09-30-13 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by bikepro (Post 16118544)
When in doubt, I always look to Sheldon Brown for advice: http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

Still contributing so much to the cycling community, even from the Great Bike Shop In The Sky.

Sixty Fiver 09-30-13 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by bikepro (Post 16118544)
When in doubt, I always look to Sheldon Brown for advice: http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

This is the only way and when you get good at it, the time to complete the cleaning only takes a few days.

zvez 09-30-13 03:54 PM

tell me that's a joke?? Fully disassemble the chain to individual pieces!
WOW!


Originally Posted by bikepro (Post 16118544)
When in doubt, I always look to Sheldon Brown for advice: http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html


bikepro 09-30-13 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16118599)
This is the only way and when you get good at it, the time to complete the cleaning only takes a few days.

You must be taking some shortcuts. It takes me about a week. Fortunately I have a few spare chains.

Bill Fold 09-30-13 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by bikepro (Post 16118544)
When in doubt, I always look to Sheldon Brown for advice: http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

That's a good one!:lol:

Let's try this one: http://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

bikepro 09-30-13 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by zvez (Post 16118605)
tell me that's a joke?? Fully disassemble the chain to individual pieces!
WOW!

Welcome to Sheldon Brown's sense of humor . . . but wait, there's more -- if you follow the links for his other products.

zvez 09-30-13 04:08 PM

Ha! Thanks I kinda figured after I started looking at some of the other links and such, the real chain clean link posted was exc.


Originally Posted by bikepro (Post 16118626)
Welcome to Sheldon Brown's sense of humor . . . but wait, there's more -- if you follow the links for his other products.


davidad 09-30-13 05:10 PM

I use an ultra sonic cleaner every 750 to 800 miles. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/chain-care.html

mprelaw 09-30-13 06:50 PM

Get in the habit of wiping down your chain after every ride. Takes all of 30 seconds.

Al1943 09-30-13 07:45 PM

I use paper shop towels that I buy at Wal-Mart. I screwed a paper towel dispenser to the peg board in my garage and load it with the blue paper shop towels from the automotive department. Now I'm addicted and use them on everything. They hold together much better than common paper towels.

Sometimes I use a Park chain cleaner loaded with mineral spirits.

99Klein 09-30-13 07:53 PM

Citrus degreaser and park chain cleaner every100 miles or so.

jyl 09-30-13 08:34 PM

I spray the chain (and freewheel, and chainrings) with Simple Green, wait 10 minutes, then blast them with a pressure washer. I'm careful not to spray at the bottom bracket or hub bearings. If you angle the pressure washer correctly, the spray will rotate the drive train backwards, passing every link under the spray. I don't think this method cleans as thoroughly as putting the chain in a jar of solvent, but it is fast and I can wash off the rest of the bike while I'm at it. I do this every couple months in the summer, every few weeks in the winter, on my daily commute bike. Then relube chain (I use Chain-L, it lasts a long time in daily rain), lubricate other pivot points, check adjustments, and the chore is done. I have gotten faster at this, now the whole cleanup takes about 15 to 20 minutes, not counting waiting for the Simple Green to work. When I used to clean my bike and chain by wiping with rags and solvent, it easily took an hour and I ended up with greasy hands and a pile of dirty rags, and my chain wasn't as clean.

Garfield Cat 10-01-13 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 16118583)
Still contributing so much to the cycling community, even from the Great Bike Shop In The Sky.

That's a nice thought. I hope Sheldon realizes he was wrong...about the afterlife.

Garfield Cat 10-01-13 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Gramercy (Post 16117876)
I've only actually wiped it down once and have about 500 miles on it, so it's black and disgusting. The last time I used an old T shirt and just threw it away because it was covered in soot after cleaning it. Would paper towels do the trick as washing a cloth with this much dirt would be useless? I noticed the bike isn't shifting as smoothly as it used to and I figured this may be the reason.

I got interested in this perhaps just like any other bike rider who rides a lot. So here's some of my take on this. Fast answer: use rubbing alcohol applied generously onto a disposable kitchen towel like the absorbent Kleenex Viva towels.

There's dirt that gets attracted to the petroleum based lubricants and then there's the lubricant itself. I spoke with engineers about this and some say that most petroleum based lubes have detergents in them and over time, that detergent will deteriorate resulting in less slick and more coloration...dark.

In the automotive applications, the industry is depending more on dry lubricants that are coated onto the metal. More of a permanent type of protection from friction. http://www.dynamiccoatingsinc.com/contactUs.htm

Will bicycle chains ever have a dry coating on them, inside the rollers and outside? Is that even feasible, cost-wise?

I recently used the LPS molybdenum disulfide product on my chain. First application, I seem to have over lubed it and the molybdenum is already a black color. Whole chain turned black after the first ride. I went back to the technical dept at LPS and they said to use simple rubbing alcohol, the type you can buy off the shelf at a CVS pharmacy. So I used that to soak a disposable kitchen towel (Kleenex Viva) and just carefully wiped the outside of the chain to get rid of the black film. Another thing the LPS said was that moly application is for high pressure and or high temperature applications. Bike riding is neither, at least not the way I ride.

I think all the consumer grade products sold in bike shops are probably ok, but if you're interested in this, just to learn more. Then you have to go to the industrial companies and engineers to learn more about lubes.

Kimmo 10-01-13 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16117914)
If you want to do a really good job, take the chain off the bike and soak/clean it in solvent.

IMO this is often a great way to rapidly shorten a chain's life. As Sheldon noted, there's no practical way to really clean a chain...

I'm pretty sure submerging the chain in solvent (or even spraying solvent at it) is going to wash abrasive crud into the chain, where much of it will stay.

I reckon the go is to use a brush and dust off as much crap as you can first (for a really dirty chain), and hit it with a rag damp with solvent while it's on the bike.

I usually clean the cogs, rings and RD pulleys before I clean the chain, because if the chain is super-filthy, it's worn and needs replacing anyway.

You can hold the crank and pull back on the chain from both the top and the bottom to go each way. After I've worked on the side plates I put the rag against the outside curve of each pulley where the chain wraps around it to wipe the top and bottom.

Then when I lube the chain I don't drag it under a stream of oil; I take the time to put a single drop on each pivot and then wipe it dry as thoroughly as I can be bothered.

Preferably again after a ride. And when fitting a new chain, wipe it in a solvent-damp rag too, so it's not sticky.

That's how you look after a drivetrain in my book...

Prevention > cure

IAMAMRA 10-01-13 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by techsensei (Post 16117935)
Assuming you just have the factory lube, you could clean it thoroughly and switch to a cleaner dry lube. If your chain has a removable link, I would take it off, put it in a empty mayonnaise jar filled with solvent, and shake, shake, shake. That will get rid of 90% of the gunk. You can use a rag and a toothbrush to get rid of the last 10%. If your chain doesn't have a removable link, I would cut it and install one.

I wouldn't automatically assume your chain isn't shifting as smoothly because the chain is black. It is more likely that in 500 miles that the cable ferrules and such have bedded more fully (otherwise called "cable stretch"), and the gears are need of a minor cable tension adjustment.

This is what I do, using dawn dish soap and then using a toothbrush afterwords.

Ferrous Bueller 10-01-13 09:39 AM

I never would want to fill the nooks and crannies in my chain with a solvent, cleaner, or anything else that's not a lubricant. I use a quick link, then a soak in a paraffin bath (which may have some Vaseline in it). Materials: candles people give me and and old pot.
Chain comes out grit free and relatively clean. Globs of wax or residual muck can be easily wiped off while the chain is warm. More worthwhile to do a few bikes at a time than just one. Chain can be re-oiled immediately after mounting or after another couple of rides.
I seem to get more life out of my chains than most.

Syscrush 10-01-13 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by bikepro (Post 16118544)
When in doubt, I always look to Sheldon Brown for advice: http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

As I was reading this thread, I became steadily more and more astonished that nobody had posted this yet. It may have taken 10 posts, but good on ya for coming through!

Personally, I think that most of what I'm reading in here is excessive - when my chain gets dirty enough to make me unhappy, I wipe it with a microfiber cloth (about $2/each and they last a very long time) then hit it with lube. If it's just making some noise, I do lube only.

I probably lube it every 200-300 miles and clean it every 1000. I certainly never pull it off the bike for cleaning.


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