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Old 03-16-14 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
You're the troll in this thread. We're the trollees.

I'm a big fan of trolling and being trolled, so this is my favorite threat ATM.
If you says so - You are very welcome.

Originally Posted by FBinNY
Since you claim this is all about context, how do you justify weaving your claims out of one sentence near the bottom of a very short Wiki history of SA? A sentence that I might note is at the bottom of a paragraph about the failure of a single hub out of all their offerings.

However, even the most generous reading of this part about licensing would be evidence of success, not failure, since nobody goes out of their way to license and make clones of failed products.

Now, you've been given many opportunities to leave this lie, and I for one stayed away until you decided to reiterate your claim that all of this acrimony is because some of us cannot read. I might have misread that too, in thinking it included me, but so it is.

In any case, you can cry "I'm misunderstood by people who hate" me all you want but it won't change anything.

So as I said before, chalk it up to my (and all of our) misunderstanding. Come back and reassert your claim if you want, but I'm done with this, and will gladly let you have the last word, and ask that others also do so we can end this.
I knew you can't stop This is my last post in this thread. I'm out of troll food. These are my last crumbs...

1. From 1902 to 1980, Sturmey-Archer made total of 2 millions of their hubs /of all types/....again...2 million hubs for 78 years of history of SA, and around 44 years of making geared hubs.
2. During that time, yearly production of major/popular European bike manufacturers were anywhere from tens of thousands to 1.2 million units...again...a year.
3. Please stop the madness and don't insists on telling everyone that world was flooded with these hubs. Numbers don't match you like it or not.

Do trolls like water? It's all what left...
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Old 03-17-14 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lopek77
After the failure of the SW in the market and the re-commitment to the AW, Sturmey-Archer began to widely license the design, with fully interchangeable clones of the AW eventually being made under labels including J.C. Higgins, Sears, Austro-Daimler, Brampton, SunTour, and others..."
For the sake of those who weren't around then and must depend on Wiki entries: The SW hub was a failure, but Sturmey had not stopped making the AW, which had been a resounding success. It's true that it did license the hub design to some other manufacturers, but Schwinn, Raleigh U.S.A. (of course) and others continued to spec their bikes with SA hubs.

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