Same hub, different wheel?
#1
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Same hub, different wheel?
I brought my Bianchi to the shop a couple days ago to replace the rear wheel. They ended up replacing both the hub and the wheel.
Here's the new rear hub they put on: https://i.imgur.com/16MATL0.jpg
And here's my front hub, which matches the previous rear hub: https://i.imgur.com/lS4rHie.jpg
It feels like the new rear hub has a lot more resistance. Should I ask for my old hub back? Is it possible to replace the wheel but keep the hub?
Here's the new rear hub they put on: https://i.imgur.com/16MATL0.jpg
And here's my front hub, which matches the previous rear hub: https://i.imgur.com/lS4rHie.jpg
It feels like the new rear hub has a lot more resistance. Should I ask for my old hub back? Is it possible to replace the wheel but keep the hub?
Last edited by morninj; 03-15-14 at 12:37 PM. Reason: fix image links
#2
Senior Member


Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 39,897
Likes: 3,865
From: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
I don't know what the problem was with the old wheel, but the hub is integral to the wheel. The wheel consists of a rim, attached to a hub by spokes. It's all one piece.
As for the difference in resistance, it might be that the gearing is different if they changed the sprocket cassette, or it could be that there's some break in period for the new hub.
OTOH, the biggest noticeable difference in resistance (in the same gear) comes from changes in tires and/or tire pressure. Your problem could simply be lower tire pressure. Or, and don't be offended, it could just be your imagination (this is common).
I suggest you go back to the shop, and have them confirm that the hub (and wheel) is OK, so you can enjoy some piece of mind. Going back is important because there might actually e somethig wrong that needs to be adjusted out.
As for the difference in resistance, it might be that the gearing is different if they changed the sprocket cassette, or it could be that there's some break in period for the new hub.
OTOH, the biggest noticeable difference in resistance (in the same gear) comes from changes in tires and/or tire pressure. Your problem could simply be lower tire pressure. Or, and don't be offended, it could just be your imagination (this is common).
I suggest you go back to the shop, and have them confirm that the hub (and wheel) is OK, so you can enjoy some piece of mind. Going back is important because there might actually e somethig wrong that needs to be adjusted out.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#4
The space coyote lied.



Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,683
Likes: 10,955
From: dusk 'til dawn.
Bikes: everywhere
I'd definitely ask for the rear hub back. I'd imagine it's still a complete wheel in their shop somewhere. Call them immediately.
Was the rim that needed replacing? Perhaps they didn't want to lace up a new rim, so just swapped out the wheel. Wheel swap was likely far cheaper than lacing up a new rim so if you expressed any cost sensitivity they might have sensed that was out of your budget.
Was the rim that needed replacing? Perhaps they didn't want to lace up a new rim, so just swapped out the wheel. Wheel swap was likely far cheaper than lacing up a new rim so if you expressed any cost sensitivity they might have sensed that was out of your budget.
#7
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 28,682
Likes: 63
From: Houston, TX
Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build
When OP says wheel, I think he means just the rim. Hence saying he got a new "wheel" and hub, e.g. a new rim and hub (and incidentally spokes).
#9
Banned
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 43,586
Likes: 1,380
From: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 8
Campagnolo?
well definitely get the old hub , unscrew the freewheel before taking the damaged rim off, please ,
or the hub would be unusable.. you need the leverage of the rim to unscrew freewheels.
well definitely get the old hub , unscrew the freewheel before taking the damaged rim off, please ,
or the hub would be unusable.. you need the leverage of the rim to unscrew freewheels.
#10
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,687
Likes: 297
Factory wheels, particularly of the budget variety, often come with poorly adjusted bearings. And hubs with cartridge bearings will often show noticeable seal drag. While this rarely causes any huge differences while riding, it's generally easily noticed when spinning the wheel.
Tight bearings should be adjusted ASAP, and dragging seals will fix themselves with time.
Tight bearings should be adjusted ASAP, and dragging seals will fix themselves with time.
#11
- Worn out braking surface on old rim
- Impact damage on rim
- Worn out or damaged freewheel
- Worn out balls or cones on old hub
- Broken or seriously damaged spokes
- Etc.
In any case, the shop did what they should have done with a 30 year old wheel. But make sure you get your old wheel back. Looks like a nice old Campy Chorus or Victory hub. If it was up to me on my spare time, I would have replaced the freewheel and laced in a new rim with the existing spokes (the rim is likely the key problem), regreased the hub, and had myself a very nice wheel.
No point the shop guys selling this to some collector for beer money when you could do the same.
#12
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 9,438
Likes: 9
From: Oklahoma
Bikes: Trek 5500, Colnago C-50
If by this you mean the wheel does not spin as long with the wheel off the ground this could be due to the grease in the new hub. A properly newly greased hub will not spin as freely as an older wheel with dried out or insufficient grease.






