Suppose you took a SPD pedal that has a cage like a quill pedal - Shimano M324 for example - and attached toe clips with loose straps to the SPD side - in other words, to clip in you insert your shoe into the clip then step down.

Would this work?

Why bother? Two thoughts. First, maybe you want the choice of riding in either clipless cleats or in non-cycling shoes plus the added security of toe clips. Second, maybe you have a vintage bike that just looks wrong with clipless pedals.

jyl, I think it's a better idea to just swap pedals.

Brad

I think it would make releasing your foot a lot less certain. The release motions for clipless pedals and toe clips and straps are completely different.

Or, ride proper toe clips with straps and cleats, like the did prior to clipless. Like these: https://www.yellowjersey.org/tocleat.html

The down side is you can't get your foot out without releasing the straps.

+1

NO!
On the Shimano M324 in your example the toeclip/cage side , steel is on the opposite side of the pedal
so you drag the toe clip, down facing , when using the SPuD cleat..
maybe the Spin Class machines BB are high enough off the ground to have this not matter..

there were accessory toeclip/strap/cleats, made to use regular shoes on Look Type pedals .
IDK if there are SPD versions ..


For high powered track racing , straps are added to racing pedals and shoes

to reinforce the cleat shoe interface, so you,

the Sir Chris Hoy types, don't pull the glued upper out of the sole of the shoe..

i would worry that the clip would interfere with the release of the cleat
as inconsistent release is
imho
the main problem with toe clips

also i cannot imagine why you would want a back up for your clipless pedals
if you often experience unplanned release from clipless pedlas
then there is something else going on

however
you could put the toe clip on the opposite side of the pedal
and just keep the strap snugged down to keep the clip from hitting the ground

Re-read the OP.

somebody is gone daft. off their Meds.

the Idea Makes absolutely no sense . there is a toeclip mount possibility on one side ,

and the SPD thing is on the other side.. 180 degrees off..


they are not on the same side, any more than Scotland and Australia share a Border..

Many years back I had Shimano 600 pedals that had a combination system. They worked fine. I had no problems getting in and out.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=shima...ml%3B756%3B503

I see it as totally workable if certain conditions are met.

1- the toe clip has to be slightly too long so as not to interfere with engaging the cleat, and not to pinch when clipped in.
2- the straps need to be kept loose enough to allow unrestricted rotation so the cleat can disengage properly.

It does make disengaging a bit more complicated, and I wonder about learned habits for disengaging if switching back and forth regularly, but the OP can set it up, and give it a go.

I don't worry about how period correct bikes look, but it could be nice to have a bike suited for quick errands and regular sport riding without making any changes except my shoes.

Most of these pictures show Shimano's 600 old clip and strap pedals that have no cleat retaining mechanism at all. The photo at the right seems to show a plastic Look-type cleat bolted directly to the pedal but what it does is a mystery since the pedals have no retaining/release mechanism for it.

Look closer. At the end of the pedal, where the three screws are, is the piece that retains the cleat. It doesn't lock, but the cleat stays tight unless you pull your foot back. Or you can put your foot in so that the cleat is over that piece and loosely close the clips - so you could use a running shoe or whatever, or use a 600 cleated shoe, which I usually did.

No , those 3 screws retain that unique toe clip

the shoes are still for the slot cleat on the shoe sole. that fits over the back plate. .

Its still pre spud/look stuff..

they were going for a more Aero leading edge of the pedal

than the Pedal with a right angle bend in the toe clip,
bolting to the flat front plate of a pedal .

this plastic piece let you use a newer hard sole Look compatible Shoe , with that pedal
but was as hard to walk in and promptly damaging , as a Look cleat

https://www.google.ca/search?q=shima...tm%3B558%3B427

Try a Campus Pedal. That will allow you to use the SPD shoes... or just hop on and ride wearing whatever you have on.

Try re-reading the op.

I did .. but its a goofy premise.
once again
NO!

pedal in question
https://www.shimano.com/publish/conte...untain%7C.html

toe clip goes on 1 side spud clip is on the bottom ... campus by welgo is a copy

jyl is off in his own quantum reality . where opposites are the same .

basically a custom manufactured toe clip has to be made

so as to reach the opposite side of the pedal .. than the one with the fitting holes to mount it.



Its ask something unrealistic saturday I guess .. get them in before St Stupid's day.

The premise isn't really goofy, he's looking for a setup where he can change between a clipless setup or regular shoes with foot retention without having to change pedals. He's trying to ascertain whether its viable or not.


By your first reply in this thread and Dave Cutter's it's clear that neither of you read and understood the OP. Go back and look when I quoted your first post.


Personally while I think you could make it work with some bending of the clip it would end up too short to properly retain your foot. Additionally standing and pushing on the clipless pedal part in a pair of regular soled shoes would be really uncomfortable.

What will work instead of this silly idea at the top of the page, is MKS EZY pedals .

you get the 2 kind you want and they are easily replaced without unscrewing them ..
because they are a QR fitting one comes off and the other on, and the screwed in part stays in place.

https://www.google.com/search?q=MKS+...hrome&ie=UTF-8


whisky tango foxtrot,
yea I was not trained in Abnormal Psychology , only mechanical reality . and

square pegs wont go in round holes well at all .

So why not suggest that in the first place?

With that long list,10+. why change pedals¿, just use a different bike from that large inventory

I just use a pedal wrench , it's no BFD to change pedals .

Why not get something like a Shimano A530 that's SPD on one side and platform on the other, and put the toe strap on the platform side?

Sorry... didn't realize this was "run everything by CharlyAlfaRomeo (before posting) day".

Yes, it is an odd question.

The main purpose would be so that I could hop on the bike in regular shoes and have toe clip retention, or clip in with cleated bike shoes. The combo platform/SPD pedals have a similar idea, but I've ridden either toe clips or clipless my whole life - my first bike at 8 y/o had toe clips - and feel insecure with mere platform pedals.

The secondary purpose would be so that a particular vintage bike can keep looking "right" while I ride it clipless.

Because the toe clips will drag on the ground and, worse, interfere with cornering when you are using the SPD side of the pedals.

BTW, there are clip-in platforms that fasten to any SPD pedal and allow the use of plain shoes but detach for SPD use. Problem Solvers sells them but you will have to fit your own clips and straps. Winwood sells them both with and without the clips and straps.