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rdlange 05-21-14 08:07 PM

Is this a cracked rim????
 
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Weinmann/Etro 622x15 alloy rim. Is this a crack or just a 'joint' in the rim? not very great camera. thanks.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=381952

bhchdh 05-21-14 08:09 PM

Joint

JanMM 05-21-14 08:17 PM

Absolutely.

Andrew R Stewart 05-21-14 08:21 PM

Actually both. The joint in this case is also a crack as it's not been welded together. :) Andy.

rdlange 05-21-14 08:26 PM

"Joint, absolutely, actually it's both". Means nothing to me. COME ON FOLKS, WHICH ONE? Be clear. Is the wheel damaged? Or just cosmetically odd looking. I've been riding on it and went to change tires and saw it. So really, lets have something exact. Can I use it or need to replace. thanks.

ClarkinHawaii 05-21-14 08:51 PM

It's ok to use.

awfulwaffle 05-21-14 08:55 PM

Yep, just the joint. I've got 2 sets of Sun Rhyno Lite rims, each of which has a visible joint just like that. They weren't very apparent at first, but as I put miles on the wheels they became noticeable. One wheelset has been retired to backup status, the other still being used on trails. With my 225 lb butt riding over rocks and roots, if it was a problem the rims would have come apart by now.

FBinNY 05-21-14 09:03 PM

It's a joint.

Be real, you already knew the answer, but didn't take a moment to think.

What are the odds of a perfectly straight and square crack occurring exactly centered between 2 spokes opposite the valve?

Andrew R Stewart 05-21-14 10:59 PM

As Francis says. Do you not recognize the smiley face after my post? A crack is a void/separation/gap/break (although not here) between two sides/ends/within a otherwise continuous piece. A crack can be intended or indication of failure. Andy.

FBinNY 05-21-14 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart (Post 16780908)
As Francis says. Do you not recognize the smiley face after my post? A crack is a void/separation/gap/break (although not here) between two sides/ends/within a otherwise continuous piece. A crack can be intended or indication of failure. Andy.

A crack can also be comment with a bit of intended irony. Very apt on this thread.

I won't make any cracks about joints here, though it's hard to resist.

Homebrew01 05-22-14 12:31 AM

In some places, crack is illegal, while joints are legal.

BikeWise1 05-22-14 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by rdlange (Post 16780554)
Weinmann/Etro 622x15 alloy rim. Is this a crack or just a 'joint' in the rim? not very great camera. thanks.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=381952

How, exactly do you think they make rims?

Two ways to join an extrusion. Pinning-like yours, or welding like this:

How Bike Rims Are Made | adventure journal

RPK79 05-22-14 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by BikeWise1 (Post 16781611)
How, exactly do you think they make rims?

Two ways to join an extrusion. Pinning-like yours, or welding like this:

How Bike Rims Are Made | adventure journal

You mean they're not cast in a solid loop?

HillRider 05-22-14 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by rdlange (Post 16780595)
"Joint, absolutely, actually it's both". Means nothing to me. COME ON FOLKS, WHICH ONE? Be clear. Is the wheel damaged? Or just cosmetically odd looking. I've been riding on it and went to change tires and saw it. So really, lets have something exact. Can I use it or need to replace. thanks.

It's a JOINT!!!. Is that clear enough? Andy's comment was facetious but what he meant was that that joint is also an intentional separation in the rim since the joint is pinned, not welded.

BikeWise1 05-22-14 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 16781624)
You mean they're not cast in a solid loop?

You're kidding, right?

RPK79 05-22-14 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by BikeWise1 (Post 16781655)
You're kidding, right?

Yes.

BikeWise1 05-22-14 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 16781667)
Yes.

Having been in this business for 30 years, nothing surprises me. hahaha

I've had customers think the most outlandish things!

02Giant 05-22-14 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 16781624)
You mean they're not cast in a solid loop?

They are machined from a solid chunk of billet.

RPK79 05-22-14 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by 02Giant (Post 16781743)
They are machined from a solid chunk of billet.

That makes more sense!

dabac 05-22-14 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 16781008)
In some places, crack is illegal, while joints are legal.

My joints crack, if I've sat still long. Does that make ME illegal? Or is it OK as long as I refrain from bending?

leob1 05-22-14 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by 02Giant (Post 16781743)
They are machined from a solid chunk of billet.

All joking aside, that is an interesting concept.

Homebrew01 05-22-14 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by leob1 (Post 16781924)
All joking aside, that is an interesting concept.

As in how can we make rims that waste the most material ?

leob1 05-22-14 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 16781971)
As in how can we make rims that waste the most material ?

I said interesting concept, not easy, practible, cheap, lighweight, etc.
You could machine just the rim, or a disk, or anything in between. Interesting.

mrrabbit 05-22-14 10:02 AM

BikeForums is a joint where everyone is cracked!

=8-)

SquidPuppet 05-22-14 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by 02Giant (Post 16781743)
They are machined from a solid chunk of billet.

It must be a big lathe.


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