cruiserhead

Yes it is.
Just like when the industry forced everyone to go to indexed shifting.
or when they forced everyone to go to integrated shifters
or when they forced everyone to go from 7 to 8 to 9 to 10 to 11 speed
or when they forced everyone to go from wool to lycra
or when they forced everyone to use clipless pedals
or when they forced everyone to wear helmets
or when they forced everyone to use clincher tires

innovation sucks!

headloss 

A wide 650b tire gives practically the same outer diameter of a narrower 700c tire... so although the rim isn't in the same place, the outer rubber is. The benefit of discs is that they don't care where the rim is relative to the hub. I have a friend that threw some 650b wheels/tires on her Straggler (forget what size off hand, and while the front fit, the rear was too tight... not sure what she is running at the moment). So yeah, again I plan to interchange wheels but I might go with a 650b mtb instead of a 29er for that reason. Haven't made up my mind.

LesterOfPuppets

I've seen a few mention less adjustment needed for disc. There are ways to reduce adjustment needed on rim brakes.

One of my favorites is V-brakes with vaguely parallelogram linkage. The pad follows a straight trajectory instead of arcing its way in to meet the rim as many other rim brakes do.

Bandera

Interesting and a bit ironic.

1st the "PatronSaintOfDiscBrakes" condescendingly assumed that I lack the technical ability to bleed a simple bicycle disc brake hydraulic system while cruiserhead implies that my servicing the admittedly complex linked triple disc system on my beloved VFR is somehow too complex or something.

You two talk it out and decide one way or the other.......

-Bandera (Out of this thread...Really.)

cruiserhead

wtf?
You said it was a pita, not me

I'm saying that system has nothing to do with a bicycle's system.

And you forgot the rest of what I said

dynaryder

Look at how you've been replying to me and others.

Oh my.

The card in my wallet says I'm a Pope in the Erisian Church,so yeah,I'm allowed to canonize myself. Sorry I had to explain that.

Maybe you should have published your chops. From the way you were talking about the issues with hydros,it didn't sound like you had any experience with them. BTW,what experience do you have with bicycle hydros? While the principles are the same,they're much simpler systems than the ones on motor vehicles. I've owned bikes with Hayes,Avid,and Shimano systems,and helped my friends with theirs,so while I don't have an IBA cert,I do have an idea of what I'm talking about.

Well,despite saying you're done with this thread,you still came back. So perhaps you can come back again and answer this: when did I ever state that disc brakes are for everyone? Because I've never said it. I'm not even sure how you could read that into what I posted. As for the insults you've tossed at me(see second bolded part),I've been trying to have an informative conversation. People make statements that don't follow my experiences,so I post what I've seen.

I haven't been condescending,hysterical,or childish. You have by your above posting. You are the only one engaging in personal attacks.

For some reason,disc vs rim brakes seem to be some crazy polarizing issue on this forum. While there are people on both sides who mock the other,I don't. I give informed opinions based on my experiences. I own/have owned road bikes with discs,and like them. If someone else doesn't want them,fine. But if someone is going to try to sway others by stating things that aren't true or engaging in hyperbole,I'll correct them.

Bandera

OK, fine.

If that isn't Condescending, and totally inaccurate, what is? Also a very bad guess.

My resume' is quite extensive and varied and will be published in my memoirs, perhaps it would be best for you not to assume that your experience exceeds that of others on this forum as a matter of course.

Of course you do (see above).

Perhaps styling yourself as "PatronSaintOfDiscBrakes" was misconstrued as not being open to other momentum modulation designs/Faiths?
Please expand on that Article of Faith as it relates to road cyclists, particularly those who compete in UCI sanctioned road racing events here in the USA where disc brakes are not certified. As a side-line please comment within your Cult's stricture on wheel changes per your canon, keeping in mind that the Heathen standard has been <20 seconds for a rear for decades.

OK, One out of three.

I really haven't needed any assistance on Fun Location, thanks so very much.

Feel free to return to your Evangelical duties as "PatronSaintOfDiscBrakes", but I'm still not buying disc brakes for road bikes.
Some of us with experience spanning many decades with a wide variety of technologies may disagree with you, get used to it.

-Bandera (Finally Done)

Jiggle

I have the XTR version on a mountain bike. They're great.

hueyhoolihan

so do those that offer no resistance find them irresistible?

headloss 

No sense in arguing with someone that speaks in generalities rather than specifics. You'd think there was never a disc brake recall the way the guy talks. Any disc brake is only as good as its design, and there have been a lot of bad designs in this, the early stages of hydraulic discs for bicycles. It's too easy to just assume that anyone with a different experience didn't know what they were doing, but as you say, it's condescending... and really unhelpful.

rydabent

hillrider

Actually my pony has several other tricks.
I believe the ave recreational cycist would be better served on recumbents with disc brakes of course.
Since I ride bents I dont believe in all the obscenely priced cycling kit since I dont need it.
I like frame material in the following order titanium steel and aluminum.
And lastly my pony and I like oatmeal raisan cookies.


Now-------------These are my opinions developed over almost 70 years of cycling. I dont expect everyone to buy into them.

CbadRider

And we're done here. Thread closed.