respoking a wheel
12-23-14 | 07:20 PM
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BTW- you're making me regret ever mentioning the chloride issue with stainless steels.
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12-23-14 | 08:03 PM
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I'm rarely patient enough to do this correctly and end up lumping all my spokes together. My wheels survive, and as I recently noticed, I've never popped a spoke on a wheel I built, even wheels I build sloppily.
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12-24-14 | 12:17 AM
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IF The pattern is OK, is everything is right except for the placement of the valve hole, then it's very fast and easy to relace, without taking the spokes from the hub.
Get some string, or dental floss, and tie each pair of spokes together at the cross. Then keeping the wheel flat on your table, remove all the nipples. Move the rim around 2 spoke holes, so the valve is in the right place, and the right/left or (top/bottom with the wheel flat) spokes are going to the right holes in the rim. Then connect the nipples working the crossed pairs together.
If you've finished, tensioned and trued the wheel, the easier option is to drill a new valve hole in the right place, but I know that nobody here on BF would be able to live with a wheel that had two valve holes. Perish the thought and forget that I dared suggest it.
BTW- you really don't have to do anything at all. Having the valve hole at a cross will not affect anything, and you won't have issues pumping (test for yourself). BITD it wasn't rare to see newbies with the spokes crossing at the valve hole. Back then we used to karate chop our Silca pumps to remove them, and the worst that would happen is they'd bang into the cross "safety net" and bounce back a bit.
The ONLY drawback to having the spokes cross at the valve is that snooty riders will point it out.
Get some string, or dental floss, and tie each pair of spokes together at the cross. Then keeping the wheel flat on your table, remove all the nipples. Move the rim around 2 spoke holes, so the valve is in the right place, and the right/left or (top/bottom with the wheel flat) spokes are going to the right holes in the rim. Then connect the nipples working the crossed pairs together.
If you've finished, tensioned and trued the wheel, the easier option is to drill a new valve hole in the right place, but I know that nobody here on BF would be able to live with a wheel that had two valve holes. Perish the thought and forget that I dared suggest it.
BTW- you really don't have to do anything at all. Having the valve hole at a cross will not affect anything, and you won't have issues pumping (test for yourself). BITD it wasn't rare to see newbies with the spokes crossing at the valve hole. Back then we used to karate chop our Silca pumps to remove them, and the worst that would happen is they'd bang into the cross "safety net" and bounce back a bit.
The ONLY drawback to having the spokes cross at the valve is that snooty riders will point it out.
12-24-14 | 02:52 PM
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If you handle your chips only along the edge akin to holding a CD and therefore minimize both chip and wheel cross-contamination during consumption then concurrent spoking and chipping is permissable.
12-30-14 | 02:53 PM
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I will stick with Robert on taping the rims together and transferring. In fact, I'm convinced that those poo-pooing this method have never tried it and have no idea that this is the fastest way to get him back on the road with a wheel closest to what the OP started with but with the valve hole correctly oriented. It is not more work, rather it is almost brainless so could be done from your easychair watching football.
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