Bending a spoke while installing it . . . How bad?
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Bending a spoke while installing it . . . How bad?
20" wheel 32 spoke 3x off a folding bike (cheapo). Has two broken spokes, broken where the spoke joins the nipple because the rim appears to be drilled straight toward the middle of the hub, rather than angled.
Anyway, the only way to install the replacement spoke(s) without bending them is to loosen and disconnect several adjacent spokes so as to have clearance.
If the spoke gets bent during installation, and then straightens out of course when tightened, does it have any serious effect on the spoke's durability?
I'm a little hazy on metal fatigue. OK, I really know nothing about metal fatigue--how a one-time lateral bend (now straightened) would effect a spoke's radial pulling strength.
Thank you.
Anyway, the only way to install the replacement spoke(s) without bending them is to loosen and disconnect several adjacent spokes so as to have clearance.
If the spoke gets bent during installation, and then straightens out of course when tightened, does it have any serious effect on the spoke's durability?
I'm a little hazy on metal fatigue. OK, I really know nothing about metal fatigue--how a one-time lateral bend (now straightened) would effect a spoke's radial pulling strength.
Thank you.
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You won't have any issues with the new spokes. Bending spokes gently along their length to get them threaded into the hub won't change the metal enough to cause issues.
However, I'd be worried about the rest of the wheel. Since two spokes have broken already and, as you pointed out, the spoke holes are causing sharp bends at the nipples, I'd bet that the rest are ready to break. You may be better off replacing the whole wheel (if it's cheap enough) or relacing with fewer crosses. I think a 20" wheel with 32 spokes could get by with 2-cross on the rear and radial in the front.
However, I'd be worried about the rest of the wheel. Since two spokes have broken already and, as you pointed out, the spoke holes are causing sharp bends at the nipples, I'd bet that the rest are ready to break. You may be better off replacing the whole wheel (if it's cheap enough) or relacing with fewer crosses. I think a 20" wheel with 32 spokes could get by with 2-cross on the rear and radial in the front.
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You won't have any issues with the new spokes. Bending spokes gently along their length to get them threaded into the hub won't change the metal enough to cause issues.
However, I'd be worried about the rest of the wheel. Since two spokes have broken already and, as you pointed out, the spoke holes are causing sharp bends at the nipples, I'd bet that the rest are ready to break. You may be better off replacing the whole wheel (if it's cheap enough) or relacing with fewer crosses. I think a 20" wheel with 32 spokes could get by with 2-cross on the rear and radial in the front.
However, I'd be worried about the rest of the wheel. Since two spokes have broken already and, as you pointed out, the spoke holes are causing sharp bends at the nipples, I'd bet that the rest are ready to break. You may be better off replacing the whole wheel (if it's cheap enough) or relacing with fewer crosses. I think a 20" wheel with 32 spokes could get by with 2-cross on the rear and radial in the front.
Last edited by ClarkinHawaii; 02-05-15 at 10:10 PM.
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I wouldn't hesitate a second. Don't tie a knot on it and don't bend it over an edge and you'll be fine. Mid-length failures are extremely rare.
But, if it is indeed a funky drilling causing the problem, and the break at the nipple does suggest that, then I might be tempted to run a drill through to realign the hole, and then slip a washer on the nipple when relacing.
Last edited by dabac; 02-06-15 at 12:24 AM.
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The elbow of a spoke is only a specific bend. So most spokes in use have already been bent. Andy.
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If there is a bike co-op in the area, perhaps you could get some help to loosen all the spokes a couple of turns and then re-true and tension the wheel. Might help, couldn't hurt.
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Great minds think alike. I did that, also made it a lot tighter than it was. Not too tight, of course . . . but . . .just . . . right.







