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Old 03-14-15 | 11:18 PM
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Why are you running an 8 speed chain on a 9 speed gearset?
Even if you chain is a 9 speed, why are you using an 8 speed quick link?
2011 Felt Q620 specs 9 speeds, no?
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Old 03-18-15 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by trailangel
Why are you running an 8 speed chain on a 9 speed gearset?
Even if you chain is a 9 speed, why are you using an 8 speed quick link?
2011 Felt Q620 specs 9 speeds, no?
2009 is speced as an 8 speed. He may have an older one than a 2011


and the question of if he takes his chain apart to clean is a good question, although given his mileage with his LHT he most likely is doing the same chain maintenance on this bike too....

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Old 03-18-15 | 08:48 AM
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The 2011 is spec'd as a front AND rear suspension per bikepedia.com, while the "surrounding" years only spec FS.

IF this bike is a RS, could that be the problem with too short a chain? (I don't know diddly about RS)

Under what conditions does the chain break? After a major "jump"?
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Old 03-18-15 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by trailangel
Why are you running an 8 speed chain on a 9 speed gearset?
Even if you chain is a 9 speed, why are you using an 8 speed quick link?
2011 Felt Q620 specs 9 speeds, no?
The SRAM PC 830 chain in the photo is both 8- and 9-speed compatible.

https://www.sram.com/sram/road/products/pc-830-chain
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Old 03-18-15 | 09:52 AM
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The keyhole in the quick link is gone.....it just pulled the pin out from sideloading.

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Old 03-18-15 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JerrySTL
The SRAM PC 830 chain in the photo is both 8- and 9-speed compatible.

https://www.sram.com/sram/road/products/pc-830-chain
thats interesting, didnt know that.
and I have a 8 sp and a 9 sp bike (8 speed bike went years with same chain, so I've really only changed the chain once)
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Old 03-18-15 | 02:15 PM
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The keyhole in the quick link is gone.....it just pulled the pin out from sideloading.
kinda supports the theory of not clicking the quicklink together properly and some movement wearing away at the shape until it couldnt do its thing anymore.

maybe not squeezing it together enough when doing the "pull" to lock it in place? I invariably get a bit of skin stuck in it when I do it properly.
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Old 03-18-15 | 07:50 PM
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In >200K miles of riding I've only broken chains I installed poorly. Consider finishing pin installation with a vise-grip: that can get it even when it's just a bit off, and makes mis-installation less likely.
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Old 03-18-15 | 08:03 PM
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In >200K miles of riding I've only broken chains I installed poorly. Consider finishing pin installation with a vise-grip: that can get it even when it's just a bit off, and makes mis-installation less likely.
have to disagree, but perhaps others that do this a lot more than me (the mechanics who have posted here) can chime in. I find that using my fingers I can be sure and feel that it seats properly and goes in well. I know there is a doohickey that makes it easier, but I change chains so infrequently that I havent bothered getting it.

I'd be concerned that vice grips could force it if it isnt properly positioned, ie squeezed inwards properly before pulling back.
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Old 03-18-15 | 08:29 PM
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That's not a broken chain... This is a broken chain.
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Old 03-18-15 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by djb
kinda supports the theory of not clicking the quicklink together properly and some movement wearing away at the shape until it couldnt do its thing anymore.

maybe not squeezing it together enough when doing the "pull" to lock it in place? I invariably get a bit of skin stuck in it when I do it properly.
This is likely the problem I had that caused the failure. Maybe for some reason I didn't get it back together that time.
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Old 03-18-15 | 10:33 PM
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I have a $20 pair of reversing snap ring pliers. The "jaws" are thin pins meant for snap rings and circlips. A lever reverses the linkage so that squeezing the handles can move the pins together, or push them apart. The pins are thin enough to fit in the link of a chain. This makes installing and removing quick links easy.
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Old 03-19-15 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by djb
I'd be concerned that vise-grips could force it if it isn't properly positioned, i.e. squeezed inwards properly before pulling back.
I wrote 'finishing': the pin is already in the outer links fully and one can no longer miss. I've had occasions when I couldn't get the pin inserted perfectly, the smallest turn of the chain-tool that would move the pin would move it too far - perhaps there was something wrong with the feeling in my fingers, but I didn't think so. (I re-used pins: this may have been the problem. It also could have been a failing chain-tool: I've broken a few.) When this is the case a vise-grip can even it out. It now looks as though this guy merely didn't install his special link correctly, a different problem.
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