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Prozakk 04-02-06 12:24 PM

Revenge VS. Fly Brakes
 
I have Odyssey Evolvers front & rear. The spring caps slip regularly. One of the heavy springs is warped & lost all tension. Bolt that holds down spring cap broke off in frame. Sick of working on them constantly...thus in market for a completely different design of U-brake.

Which is better, Revenge Industries or Fly? I really like the idea of the sealed bearings on the Revenge. Can either be modded for front brake use?

P.S. I run dual cables for rear brakes.

bmxinvasion 04-02-06 12:38 PM

I use the revenge , never had any problems. I seen them used as a front brake.

premiumbmx2005 04-02-06 01:11 PM

do you notice the sealed bearings as being smoother, or are they pretty much the same as regular brakes using springs?

Prozakk 04-02-06 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by premiumbmx2005
do you notice the sealed bearings as being smoother, or are they pretty much the same as regular brakes using springs?

Yeah...answer please...

Prozakk 04-02-06 04:13 PM

Okay...more site boo-boos...

BMX Direct 04-02-06 04:59 PM

The Revenge brakes are way smooth 'cos of the sealed bearings, allot less friction, the Flys use the same idea as the Evolvers or any other with the brass bush.
The Revenges can be setup as front brakes where as the Fly brakes; i dont think so.

Prozakk 04-02-06 05:06 PM

:beer: SOLD! :beer:

CMcMahon 04-02-06 05:34 PM

Fly makes the Suelo brakes specifically for the front.

Prozakk 04-02-06 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Prozakk
:beer: SOLD! :beer:

^^^You must have missed this^^^

CMcMahon 04-03-06 09:15 AM

I saw that; I was merely correcting him on his statement that Fly does not make front brakes.

Prozakk 04-03-06 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Beerman
I saw that; I was merely correcting him on his statement that Fly does not make front brakes.

The Suelo's don't seem to be on their website anymore....hmmm.....

Prozakk 04-03-06 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Beerman
I saw that; I was merely correcting him on his statement that Fly does not make front brakes.

The Suelo's don't seem to be on their website anymore....hmmm.....

KinetikBiker 04-03-06 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Prozakk
The Suelo's don't seem to be on their website anymore....hmmm.....

They may not be on Fly's site, but they are on Staff, Dans Comp and several other mailorders, which is where you would get them, not directly from Fly..


My vote is for Fly, becuase i thinkt that the Revenges arent as low profile as the Fly's and even for a front brake i dont think you want them to stick out much.

Prozakk 04-03-06 10:02 AM

Height isn't a problem. The revenge & fly are BOTH lower than ody, BTW.

KinetikBiker 04-03-06 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Prozakk
The revenge & fly are BOTH lower than ody, BTW.

True, it may not matter but according to Empire, your wrong...

Odyssey-24.8mm stack height
Revenge-29.6mm stack height
Fly-21.5mm stack height

Prozakk 04-03-06 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by KinetikBiker04
True, it may not matter but according to Empire, your wrong...

Odyssey-24.8mm stack height
Revenge-29.6mm stack height
Fly-21.5mm stack height

Okay, the height of everything but...

CMcMahon 04-03-06 03:59 PM

http://www.suelobmx.com/frenoeng.htm

That took a whopping three seconds to find. And the Revenge brakes have a higher stack height than Evolvers and Fly brakes.

Prozakk 04-04-06 09:35 AM

The arms of the Revenge are much lower profile than Ody.

CMcMahon 04-04-06 11:58 AM

Stack height is measured from the caps, not the arms, smart guy. No one's worried that their chain is going to be grinding away at the arms of their brakes.

Prozakk 04-04-06 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Beerman
1)Stack height is measured from the caps, not the arms, smart guy. 2)No one's worried that their chain is going to be grinding away at the arms of their brakes.

1) No **** Sherlock!
2) You don't know EVERYONE, thus an untrue statement.

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CMcMahon 04-04-06 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Prozakk
1) No **** Sherlock!
2) You don't know EVERYONE, thus an untrue statement.

1) Then why the hell are you arguing that the arms are lower when I wasn't even referring to the arms, but the stack height?
2) Explain to me exactly how your chain would grind down on the arms of your u-brakes, without first grinding through the cap. And then find me one person that actually worries about his u-brake arms being ground down by his chain, aside from yourself, because the opinion of morons isn't valid here.

Brian 04-04-06 07:02 PM

I can see this heading towards disc brakes soon...

Prozakk 04-04-06 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by Beerman
1) Then why the hell are you arguing that the arms are lower when I wasn't even referring to the arms, but the stack height?
2) Explain to me exactly how your chain would grind down on the arms of your u-brakes, without first grinding through the cap. And then find me one person that actually worries about his u-brake arms being ground down by his chain, aside from yourself, because the opinion of morons isn't valid here.

Mine are grinded down near the brake pad mounting area of the arm, at the end, thank you.

Yuck fou.

CMcMahon 04-05-06 01:01 AM

I'd love to see some photo evidence of that, with your chain and gearing in the picture. Even with 45-16, or whatever the hell you're running, I just can't see that happening with seatstay brakes, especially after looking at the pictures of your bike where the chainline appears to be at least a quarter-inch below the point on the arms where you pads are threaded-in.

http://jmelton007tx.tripod.com/siteb...g.w300h225.jpg

dooley 04-05-06 02:18 AM

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On evolvers the chain does rub on the arm, not enough to cause any real damage but enough to annoy you. I did this

CMcMahon 04-05-06 02:37 AM

He has SS brakes, not CS, so he wouldn't run into that issue. That's weird that that would happen, though; I had 28-10 on my Stricker without anything but the cap getting nailed. I stand corrected.

Prozakk 04-05-06 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Beerman
He has SS brakes, not CS, so he wouldn't run into that issue. That's weird that that would happen, though; I had 28-10 on my Stricker without anything but the cap getting nailed. I stand corrected.

It's from the little slack I have in the chain.

As said above, not enough to truly damage, just enough to annoy.

Prozakk 04-05-06 06:15 AM

I'm sure you'll never appologize either...


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