Which do you guys think is better. A top loader stem or a front loader stem?

Frontload or die.

Top is a little slower to install the bars, but as long as it doesn't slip or you need to take the bars off for some reason it shouldn't be too bad.. IMO

Front loader + a pile of headset spacers = terrible

odyssey elementary, that'll sort your problems

Until it slips like crazy, or you realize that it looks really ulgy.
Get a Redneck XLT. (or any Redneck generation...)
Or a Fit S3

it hasnt slipped for me (u need to use a pole for leverage when tightening) and its not ugly, thats just your opinion

I just think that a Redneck or any other copy of the Redneck looks clean.

I also like the Fit stems, they look clean too.

yeh i agree that they look clean but everythings mainly based on opinion, i like stuff thats different (sometimes)

Yeah, i feel for the different stuff thing, and i ended up with ****ty parts, like the Shadow Chain, it sucks, and Primo Hollowbite Cranks (i hate them at least)
For the most part, cleaner looking, conventional looking parts are better....

Except for the Macneil seat and post, but they look clean...


That Odyssey stem, ive heard lots of storys about it slipping and being ulgy.

The Odyssey stem only slips if you can't follow the (simple) instructions properly.

My Redneck has never slipped. Ive snapped a pair of Haro bars and they didnt move in the stem...(sure, you can say that Haro bars are weak, but im still suprise they didnt move in the stem...)

And there are no directions...

hey kinetic can u not spell ugly? lol

Are you implying that the Redneck or the Fit stems are ulgy?

If so, then you tell me what a good looking stem is...

https://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking...TBMXFSA/SM0912

First of all, thats for racing only...

Second, its ulgy.

Third, it looks like it would snap.

First of all, its sexy.
Second, its strong.
Third, Learn to race.

1) Maybe to you, but not to anyone else...
2)Pff.
3) Ive been to a race track, and i will have you know, i beat like 3 little kids that actually race, haha


And ill learn to race when you post your stats and ranking on this site. And prove to us YOU can race, and that your good.

I never said I knew how to race Cuz' I don't.

You mean to tell me that, you have an FMF carbon fiber frame, Chris King hubs, and you have it decked out with race parts, and you dont even race competitivley?!??!!

HAHAHA, Yes.

Thats sad.

Im not even kidding.

HAHAHHA, No. I work at a bike shop. I don't pay the millions they cost. (Hubs, Frame, etc.)

I payed what you payed for your 30 lb beater bike, for a sick carbon 17 lb supa sick bike.

So?

Why do you have a race bike if you dont race?

Im just wondering...

I like light bikes more then junk ones. Carbon looks sick.