Ok, so yeah, dodged that like a politician, but yeah, I mean, I just understand why you instigate something and then just be a hypocrite. I mean I don't think that biking is about proving how tough one is, if I like the relative comfort of my MTB because I can ride 10-15 miles and have more fun doing it then on a road bike, and I am not killing myself on 20'' wheels(And I wholeheartedly understand that it is possible to go cross country on a bmx if you wanted, but I would rather have some wheels that rolled better). I didn't **** all over the style of bike you ride, and I don't know why most BMX cats feel like MTB's deserve it.

Because BMX's are often put on the back burner and ignored because MTB's are trying to pull off tricks we've mastered years ago.

Hmm, I have never really gotten that feeling before, are you talking about like in bike magazines or something or like the internet? But yeah man, I an understand that, and believe me, most guys on mtb's have nothing but respect for all the bmx guys out there who are always riding stuff that most folks wouldn't even try.

Yeah, except we don't need Azonic body armor, a fullface, and shocks to jump down a five-stair.

Don't forget the knee and shins and gloves

^ Some of you are starting to show your ignorance. Perpetuating stereotypes always does that.

mountain biking killed bmx > 10 years ago. We have had issues with mountain bikers ever since.

I still see discs, big tyres and suspension.

And I don't have a problem with mountain biking, hell, I race DH and have more in MTB's then I ever had in BMX.

But I hate them in the parks trying to snake us, giving us lip for 'not having real bikes' and generally acting like they're better. It's the pinkbikers that piss me off.

No it didn't. What a foolish statement.

Umm yeah, well that's just pathetic.

Good eye. It's unfortunate that my point still eludes you.

describe the early 90's major trend in bike sales, if you would, plz.

BMX had started on a downswing well before mountain bikes became popular, if that's what you're implying. Now BMX is big again. Skating has followed the same pattern. So has DH MTB racing, for that matter. For whatever reason, the popularity of those sports runs in cycles. It doesn't mean any of them killed each other, or that any of them were ever dead.

BMX as a sport was downsizing because of the "freestyle" craze. When mountain bikes came out it pretty much drove it into the ground. the local bike shops dropped their bmx lines in favor of mtbs and everyone I knew dumped their 20 inchers.

and tbqh, I don't care for the mtb movement because when I think of mtbs, I think of them on top of suvs, stopping at starbucks with eddie bauer bags flying out of the back. Sorry.

You and wtp both seem to share the notion that prejudging someone based upon the type of bike they ride makes sense - and it doesn't. If there were no such thing as mtb's, he would still have freds snaking lines at the park. If there were no such thing as Starbucks, poughzeurs would find somewhere else to cruise. And if they stopped making girl's jeans and t-shirts, BMXers would still wear clothes.

I'm not prejudging anything.
When I see mountain bikes around town they are on the top of suvs sitting at starbucks. Eddie bauer bags are optional.
Now I think that mountainbikers are a little sensitive as well.

poughzeurs? I believe it's posers. And the people who wear girl's jeans and tshirts are skaters. Mtbs at a skatepark is the most ridiculous thing I've heard.

I am well known for my emotional instability here at bikeforums. In fact I am crying right now.

I really like the way you use the collective "we" to represent the opinion of BMXers when only two weeks ago, you'd been out of the sport for over eighteen years.

There are skaters who feel the same way about twenties.

What are your thoughts on 24's for street/park riding?

granted, we was an improper term. I. I. I. I. I.

On a bmx or mtb?

Exactly.

No, not exactly. If it's on a bmx that's pretty much the most pointless unless your old and ride to the store.

I'm sorry but every MTB rider I've seen at the park has been a total asshat with no style whatsoever. They snake lines, act rude as hell, hack, and don't respect the basic rules of the park. Hell, DYLAN TREMBLAY! Would not leave our bowl, insisting that 'us bmx riders' should go find somewhere else to ride. He rode for a solid 35 minutes in our bowl, just pumping around acting like the king supreme hippy he is.

Also, I guess board shorts and an Azonic shovel t-shirt with either a ball cap or a fedora aren't real clothes then

I have no problem with MTB riders, hell, if I didn't snap my Jamis a few days ago I would be riding the hills more. I just have a problem with pinkbikers and people who snake me at the park.

They try to mimic our style, and fall short a few feet away from crappy. Only things that have left me floored at what a 24" can do was one fellow who was doing brakeless g-turns and other crazy spins on the pyramid at our park. any time he left the ground he was about as graceful as a brick in the wind.

They're still for goons.