I'm not a know it all. I just know alot about bmx. I've been doing it since i was about 10. I rode bikes that weighed close to 40 pounds until i was about 16. Seriously, don't be a ***** weight doesn't matter. starting out on a heavy bike will only benefit you, but really there is no such thing as a heavy bike with the completes they sell these days. Weight should be the last thing your thinking about.

And a light bike will benefit less?

Actually, it may sound weird, but Fuzzy is completely right. If you start out with a light bike you don't really learn anything smooth, you just whip everything around. Starting out on a heavier bike will only be more beneficial in the long-run and you will find yourself getting much better with new lighter parts after being used to heavier parts.

i dont want to get new lighter parts, if im spending close to 400$ on a bike i expect it to be light because i want something thats light.
why would i spend soo much money thinking all i have to do is spend more down the line?
whats the point?
i want something for 300$ or even less that can be really light and easy to ride for long periods of time and learn alot on it!

Unfortunately those two requests don't go hand in hand.

ok so i guess the kink transition is the best choice for me.
now i gotta save up for it
im about halfway through haha.
and the bike shop near me said there supplier is out of them till atleast october

earlier i wanted to get the DK stylus and learn flatland.
but now i think ill go with a nice light street bike and still learn flatland on it and be able to ride street aswell

this is stupid. he says he doesnt want a heavy bike, which would be cheaper, and then pay money down the line for newer parts. if you get an expensive, high end complete, the parts wont last a lot longer than some really cheap ones. and no matter what, you'll end up putting extra money into your bike. if you dont want to pay more later, then dont even start riding. my bike was only $250 when i bought it, but since then ive put another $300 into it in parts, and hours upon hours of my own time. and the $300 isnt counting all the money i put into tubes. i go through a lot of those.

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you can barely get a frame for $300. If you're just bunny hopping and trying a little flatland, you don't need a crazy high end bike yet. Get something that has a decent frame and worry about the other stuff when you get to that point. about the front brakes, I was front brake only for a while before I went brakeless to make myself a little smoother. if you don't want to spend the money on a new fork with 990 mounts, see if you can find a 990 brake plate adaptor. it bolts into the hole for the caliper brakes but has the mounts for 990's. I ran one for a few years and never had a problem. also if you want to take the brakes off, you dont have to worry about re-tuning them if you ever want to pet them back on. you just undo one bolt and you golden. Your local bike shop might have them. They look like this but have 990 mounts instead: https://www.danscomp.com/489051.php?cat=PARTS (<---dont buy that, its just an example of a brake plate adaptor). good luck

bought the stolen heist. at a deal from somebody that lightly used it. still looks brand new!
330 !!

You should get a bike that suit your needs & your budget !!

i got the stolen heist and i love it.
but now that im learning to hop and still trying to learn a manual.
i want an even lighter bike.
i think im going to buy the grim reaper 2.0 frame and slowly build another bike. but this one ill build super duper light any advice for which parts to get?
im not sure which rims to get. but im still far from buying the frame. just wondering which rims would be best for street but also very light

#1. dont buy eastern. just dont.
#2. just ride what you have until something breaks or wears out, then replace it. dont act loke some stuck up little ***** who's parents are loaded and do anything for their kid.

Why? Your still learning. Give your training wheels a chance. If you go light before you learn you will not progress as much as if you learn on a mid or heavy weight. Also lighter is for experienced riders that can land a high percentage of their tricks (which does not happen when learning basics) and are more prone to damage. Heist is a nice bike and is worthy of a few upgrades when needed. Save your money for that and go custom when truly ready.