Pinarello Campagnolo- 80's?
04-02-17, 01:38 PM
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Ok I finally gt the site to accept a full shot, sorry for bad lighting... outside pics seem to be too large to upload...?
04-02-17, 01:53 PM
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You need to select 'Go Advanced' and then in the new window frame click on the paperclip.
Nice looking bike, is there a date on the RD? There is a way to look up the date code from the cranks but I don't remember where to lok.
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04-02-17, 02:00 PM
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I didn't notice this earlier but it looks like some incorrectly applied new decals. They put the seat tube decal on the down tube and vice versa. Looks like Nuovo Record cranks and derailleurs. The brake calipers look like Triomphe but the levers are Victory
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04-02-17, 02:02 PM
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*I updated original post with drive side photos*
Post seat- not exactly sure but I tried to take a pic... sorry
Helical ridges on bike fork- not sure...
tried to take a pic...
Patent number on read derailleur- 72
Symbol/number on back of crankarms- 170 STRADA and then number 3 inside of a diamond shape
CAM Numbers locknuts- I don't think I see any...? I included a pic...
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Post seat- not exactly sure but I tried to take a pic... sorry
Helical ridges on bike fork- not sure...
tried to take a pic... Patent number on read derailleur- 72
Symbol/number on back of crankarms- 170 STRADA and then number 3 inside of a diamond shape
CAM Numbers locknuts- I don't think I see any...? I included a pic...
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definitely not a Montello. Somebody made a real mess of the replacement decals and not a drive side photo in sight. Post some, especially of the rear, drive side dropout and underside of the bottom bracket shell. I can't ID the components but the brakes look like Gran Sport. I think it is older than 1985 but still 1980s. What size seat post does it use? Are there helical ridges inside the bottom of the fork's steerer? Is there a patent number on the rear derailleur next to the cable housing seat. What's the symbol and number on the back of the crankarms? What the CAM numbers on the back side of the hub locknuts?
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04-02-17, 02:13 PM
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Interesting mix of components. Campy GS-level brake calipers (I think Victory/Triomphe?), NR 170 Strada crank (apparently 1973 date code), NR Patent-72 rear changer mounted to a Portacatena dropout, front changer is 3-hole SuperRecord, hubs are Specialized.
04-02-17, 02:17 PM
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Frame apparently changed from blue to red at some point, with insufficient removal of the blue...
which explains the "just stick it somewhere" decal philosophy. Or maybe beer...
which explains the "just stick it somewhere" decal philosophy. Or maybe beer...
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Probably late-70s, early 80s judging by the Portacatena-drilled DO. I'm not well-versed ao Pinarello's various models, so hopefully some with more knowledge will chime in.
Also, unless you know for certain that the components on the bike were the original bits, date codes on anything don't mean a thing. I can't remember how many times I've seen this suggestion, but every time I do I smile a wry smile. I could put a '73 datecoded crankset on my '83 Colnago and it wouldn't transform it magically into a '73 Colnago
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Also, unless you know for certain that the components on the bike were the original bits, date codes on anything don't mean a thing. I can't remember how many times I've seen this suggestion, but every time I do I smile a wry smile. I could put a '73 datecoded crankset on my '83 Colnago and it wouldn't transform it magically into a '73 Colnago
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04-02-17, 07:27 PM
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I appreciate all of your thoughts and opinions very much! TBH this bike holds some emotional baggage for me and I want it gone... thoughts on a fair sale price for it?
04-02-17, 11:44 PM
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If you wanted to get wild and clean/disassemble everyting and list on ebay you may fetch a bit more, and with the somewhat eclectic component mix that would be most profitable but would take more time and effort
04-03-17, 06:39 AM
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It's definitely a frankenbike with the components being of various levels and most older than the frame itself. The Portacatena rear dropout indicates it is no older than 1978.
We can't provide an accurate value without knowing the level/model of the frame. To do this we need to establish the the tubeset. The two best indicators are the set post size and steerer tube.
The seat post will have the size stamped on it, somewhere. Most Campagnolo post are stamped at the on the back, at the top, below below where the saddle mounts. Most other manufacturers stamp the size on the lower section of the post, so you may have to remove the post from the frame to find it. It will be marked something like 26.8, 27.0 or 27.2.
We need to establish whether or not the fork uses a Columbus steerer tube. To do this you can remove the fork from the frame and check the outside of the steer tube for Columbus' dove logo. Alternately, you can remove the front wheel and check inside the bottom of the steerer tube for five helical ridges. They are only 3.5mm wide and and 0.35mm thick and often obscured by road grime or rust, so use a good light. I'm attaching a picture of what you are looking for.
Also, are there threaded holes for a 2nd water bottle cage of the seat tube?
We can't provide an accurate value without knowing the level/model of the frame. To do this we need to establish the the tubeset. The two best indicators are the set post size and steerer tube.
The seat post will have the size stamped on it, somewhere. Most Campagnolo post are stamped at the on the back, at the top, below below where the saddle mounts. Most other manufacturers stamp the size on the lower section of the post, so you may have to remove the post from the frame to find it. It will be marked something like 26.8, 27.0 or 27.2.
We need to establish whether or not the fork uses a Columbus steerer tube. To do this you can remove the fork from the frame and check the outside of the steer tube for Columbus' dove logo. Alternately, you can remove the front wheel and check inside the bottom of the steerer tube for five helical ridges. They are only 3.5mm wide and and 0.35mm thick and often obscured by road grime or rust, so use a good light. I'm attaching a picture of what you are looking for.
Also, are there threaded holes for a 2nd water bottle cage of the seat tube?
04-03-17, 08:33 AM
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The short slot Campy 1010 rear dropouts mean that the bike is definitely younger than the 72 patent rear derailleur. As already noted, most likely late 70's to the very early 80's. If this is a Montello, it must be a very early one, as this one still has a chainstay bridge behind the bottom bracket, which was absent in later models. The design of pantographing on the seat stay caps looks older than what was typical in the 80's.
Definitely worth it to refinish the bike to its original color, as the repaint was done so poorly and the decls need to be redone.
Definitely worth it to refinish the bike to its original color, as the repaint was done so poorly and the decls need to be redone.
04-03-17, 11:24 AM
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Wasn't SLX introduced in 1984? IIRC Montello was SLX from the start so the first model must have been no earlier than 1984/85.
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04-03-17, 11:47 AM
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SLX had its commercial release for the 1984 model year and the first model year for the Montello was 1985. The model name is homage to Giavera del Montello, the site of the 1985 UCI World Championships, located about 15km from the Pinarello factory in Treviso. That's why the first year Montello are referred to as Montello 85. The subject bicycle is definitely not a Montello.
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@T-Mar Thanks for the clarification. I think that was my point, this can't be a Montello. Liked the additional info since I have one! I have really bonded with this bike. Hard to get on some of the others!
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Could it be a Treviso?
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