Security and the Knowledge Gap
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I've "locked" my bike on couple of occasions by attaching my bike helmet to the bike through front wheel and inside the frame triangle. I still have to keep eye on it all the time, but the "lock" will prevent anyone from simply riding my bike away.
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#27
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I used the "Knowledge Gap" method to "lock" my Miyata in front of a convienence store:
Bike and helmet disappeared without a trace in under 9 seconds.
- I shifted both shifters out of gear
- I looped the helmet strap through the front wheel
- I checked the area in all directions, didn't see anyone hanging around and went inside.
Bike and helmet disappeared without a trace in under 9 seconds.
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To all the concerned persons: I assure you, this is not routine by any stretch. It was 6:45 on a Sunday morning with the bike visible while I was inside. Many stores around here have "due to liability concerns bikes must be left outside" signs, so that wasn't an option.
The idea was more along the lines of "extend a two second theft to thirty seconds or more," thus allowing for prevention by direct means.
My normal security is constructed by Abus... two or three pounds of hardened steel in a very compact package. Always my first choice.
The idea was more along the lines of "extend a two second theft to thirty seconds or more," thus allowing for prevention by direct means.
My normal security is constructed by Abus... two or three pounds of hardened steel in a very compact package. Always my first choice.
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There are a lot of bikes in British bikes racks with bent wheels. You often see the odd one or two outside railway stations and shopping centres.
If they can't easily nick it, they'll stamp on it in frustration.!
The only defence is to use a decent lock and lock it up with other bikes. There is safety in herds...
If they can't easily nick it, they'll stamp on it in frustration.!
The only defence is to use a decent lock and lock it up with other bikes. There is safety in herds...
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Dammit. Now I've gotta tow a hardshell case behind me and lock it in that. 
Big picture: Yes, I get it. Clever is no substitute for hardened steel, and I'm clearly insane (been called worse...) for suggesting the Knowledge Gap as an option. But hey! That's why we BF. (And truth be told, in the same situation I'd do it again.)

Big picture: Yes, I get it. Clever is no substitute for hardened steel, and I'm clearly insane (been called worse...) for suggesting the Knowledge Gap as an option. But hey! That's why we BF. (And truth be told, in the same situation I'd do it again.)
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I have used similar means when in a pinch. One of my favorites is to use a nicely coiled cable lock that is left locked on a rack(seemingly permanently) and just wrap the coils around the frame/wheel. Looks like it's locked and if done correctly will actually hold up to a decent yank.
Obviously, this is only in a pinch as J.Oxley was in, but it's better than nothing.
Obviously, this is only in a pinch as J.Oxley was in, but it's better than nothing.
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My normal security is constructed by Abus... two or three pounds of hardened steel in a very compact package. Always my first choice. 

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