Is this a Galmozzi ?
 

I stumbled into this CL this morning and couldn't pass just for the group & price. Seller said he was told by the previous owner it was a Galmozzi. Well from the details I see that may be so. What do you think? the DR is 73 & crank is 74, wheels are 27 & seatpost is 27.2. The lugs look right and it looks like there are 7 holes in the BB sort of plugged up. Fork grown looks right, long campi droupouts.

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Careful, I've heard of lots of fakes out there. Maybe it's a good sign that there are no Galmozzi decals on it, being an obvious repaint..... so at least we can say that it's not trying to be a Galmozzi until further evidence and provenance is collected....
Good luck! Hope you hit the jackpot on it, but then it could be just a measly old De Rosa too.......:rolleyes::D

There are fakes...or others who imitated the lugwork, and the bikes were then badged as Galmozzi. This doesn't look like a fake - it looks like it has nothing to do with Galmozzi.

All of the Galmozzis I have seen have that identification stamp on the head tube, most often below the herald.

Galmozzi or not it looks nice. How's it ride?

I've heard that too...I'm not sure when the stamping began. I haven't seen many live. I didn't find the stamp on my Pinarello...would he have stamped the contract builds?

Wasn't there another thread like this with another repainted "Galmozzi" - or perhaps this one - and getting the same answers - about six months ago?

Not trying to make it something it is not. This is the set of images that made me think maybe it was.
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It's a nice frame I'd like to figure out what it is. It's too big for me. I got it for the Nuevo Record group & early logo Cinelli bars & stem.

I don't know, you guys all seem to be judging this against a 60's Galmozzi. Models from the later 70's are very similar to this. It's tough tell anything with that thick re-paint globbed on. But I would not rule it out at all. If it were mine it would be covered in Jasco right now. I'd want to see it naked as soon as possible.

It does look a lot like the one you gave the link for; I can't see anything that definitely says it's not a Galmozzi. It would be interesting to check under the thick layer of paint on the head tube to see if there is an ID stamp.

If it were my size and a reasonable price, I would be willing to take a chance on it for a project. If it's not a Galmozzi I'd still have a nice frame. If it were a Galmozzi...:thumb:

Unfortunately the images on that set are cropped too much. As Otis mentions, the later bikes were different. I have seen one example with the legwork similar to yours, but it had original paint, the lugs looked more carefully filed and it had the head tube stamp I mentioned, those lugs were pretty common actually. That head tube stamp is three lines, GALMOZZI in the middle and some additional type set in complimentary arcs above and below.

Otis knows far more than I do...and I know less about the later ones. I definitely defer to him.

That said, the lugs looked less thinned out than I'd expect.

The lugs look nicely filed to me but it's difficult to tell with the 1/16" thick coat of paint (powder coat?) it's wearing.

The tip on the underside of the top tube tapers to almost nothing. The others have a nice taper to them. It is powdercoat and black and hard to tell the detailing. It is at the office and can't come home just yet ;). My pix aren't the best as I was supposed to be working, I picked it up at lunch. I haven't been able to look it over all that well.

Does anyone know when he started stamping the headtube. I looked and couldent see anything. I also read that it was often faint enough to miss unless you are looking at bare metal or thin paint.

I doubt you will be able to find any defining details until the powder coat is removed. And who knows how aggressively it was sandblasted before coating. Really too bad somebody went that route.

Powder coating a (possible) Galmozzi? Can we bring back drawing and quartering? At least they didn't cut off the hanger.

It looks like a nice enough frame to pay to have it stripped.

Looks similar to the (restored) Galmozzi that was on display in the Tallerico booth at the 2012 NAHBS. Definitely looks like a nice frame, Galmozzi or not. Fork crown on the one below isn't the same, but it's more similar to the OPs than KonAaron Snake's 1960s example. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics.

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In your photos , there are a few elements to identify if Galmozzi .You have to show the vent holes of the rear vertical , inner fork , fork vent holes , bridge attack rear brake , rear dropouts , at a minimum

That photo of the restored ( although bad restoration ) is definitely a Galmozzi

Galmozzi used different fork crown , different lugs , sometimes mixed sets. But there are some key points that hardly changed.

[QUOTE = ripescaggio; 17685753]. Tutti i Galmozzis che ho visto hanno che l'identificazione timbro sul tubo di sterzo, il più delle volte sotto l'araldo [/ QUOTE]almost all;-)
there is no precise rule for identifying a Galmozzi , but to recognize the "hand " of those who have made ​​it through some details , which are not necessarily the conjunctions or serial number or holes under the bb or otherwise.The Galmozzi , father and son have indulged lot

Thank you for your response [MENTION=123967]slotcar55[/MENTION] The pix are not great but might show the builders details. I would greatly appreciate your opinion.

I stripped the headtube and there was no mark, but it was obvious by the deep marks all going the same direction it had been stripped with a course wire brush. The frame is 62cm and weighs 1948g and fork 737g

seat stay vent hole
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I'd like to express my interest in purchasing this frame set. It is my size and I have always wanted a 70s italian.

I think , after detailed photos , can say to the 99 % that it is Galmozzi , probably in the late 70s , I believe it is absolutely worthwhile to bring it back to its ancient splendor . My compliments

Hi Aaron , not all the Galmozzi fork crown are like yours ,




Mr. Galmozzi has used various types of fork crown and different types of lugs during his time

Hi Slotcar I have a question I wonder if you can help with.
I have a frame similar to the black one here it is marked Gamozzi and the paint looks old - do you know if there is any way I can find the original paint codes or colours used on Galmozzi's. The colour on this frame is a kind of metallic pink which has faded

Hi [MENTION=428627]mannylima[/MENTION] , welcome to the forum. Over time I have spent probably way too much time googling for Galmozzi images to try to get a feel for years and colors. What I have found is a lot more respreyed examples than original examples and a lot of colors, however some appear more often than others. I have seen original images of metalic silver, metalic champaign, bright red, wine red, bright blue, black and a few others. I have not seen a metallic pink. Please post some pictures so we can help enjoy your Galmozzi. I would also love to hear any opinions about colors and history. The easy to find Galmozzi info is pretty limited. I really appreciate the input from [MENTION=123967]slotcar55[/MENTION] . My Galmozzi is stripped, primed and patiently waiting for me to make the time to spray it.

I'm sorry I think it will be almost impossible, Angelo Galmozzi has virtually lost everything, the only possibility that remains is to find the original and redo the most precisely as possible

Hi slotcar55 and peugeot mongrel,
Please see attached photos, frame looks champagne but think faded from pink (see beside front mech band)
Rear brake cable runs below top tube. Seat tube 27.2. BB only marked 59 (size). No evidence of Galmozzi stamp to head tube. Decals flush with tubes (and under lacquer),WR bands and Columbus SL foil more raised. Components '78 - 81. Wheels & seat post purchased separate. Bike came with NR post drilled like early SR. Think hubs were originally Gran Sport.
Any info much appreciated.
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