Group question for early Eddy Merkcx
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Group question for early Eddy Merkcx
So, this is headed home after being repaired and refinished:

I have wheels for it (c-record hubs with Mavic hoops), and some Super Record parts (fd, rd, and shifters). I also have some Galli components (Italian BB, headset, brake levers and rear caliper).
A complete Victory group could also be had reasonably, if I decided to go that route.
What, in your opinion, would be the best road to take; Finish collecting SR parts, Galli parts, or just go with the Victory group?
I have wheels for it (c-record hubs with Mavic hoops), and some Super Record parts (fd, rd, and shifters). I also have some Galli components (Italian BB, headset, brake levers and rear caliper).
A complete Victory group could also be had reasonably, if I decided to go that route.
What, in your opinion, would be the best road to take; Finish collecting SR parts, Galli parts, or just go with the Victory group?
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I think Pat 80-81 Super Record is what's needed here.
Galli can be nice, but such a special frame deserves the right stuff.
Glad to see you had Wanta do the restoration, same place I would have gone.
Galli can be nice, but such a special frame deserves the right stuff.
Glad to see you had Wanta do the restoration, same place I would have gone.
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I agonized over what to do with this frame. Believe it or not, you gave me the nudge over the edge to get it done. Thanks.
My personal preference is Super Record, with Galli a close second. I'll be riding it with a hodge-podge of parts until I can collect the proper parts. And yes, I'll shed a tear or two when the first scratch happens.
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If you want a matched group go with the Victory w/ the C-Rec wheels.
I don't know why everyone pooh poohs the Victory and Triomphe groups. The RD dimensions are the same as a SR/NR and the shifter insides are the same so shifting isn't much different. The unique angular styling of the crank appeals to me but I wish they would have made 172.5 arms. Unfortunately time and hording seems to have eliminated any hope of actually being able to use the smaller chain wheels the 116 BCD made possible. The caliper mounted QR is only open or closed but how many of actually use the myriad of positions the barrel of a SR/NR caliper make possible?
Be you own guide if you like Victory use it! If you want to spend money to complete the SR group and ride with the crowd do that.
I don't know why everyone pooh poohs the Victory and Triomphe groups. The RD dimensions are the same as a SR/NR and the shifter insides are the same so shifting isn't much different. The unique angular styling of the crank appeals to me but I wish they would have made 172.5 arms. Unfortunately time and hording seems to have eliminated any hope of actually being able to use the smaller chain wheels the 116 BCD made possible. The caliper mounted QR is only open or closed but how many of actually use the myriad of positions the barrel of a SR/NR caliper make possible?
Be you own guide if you like Victory use it! If you want to spend money to complete the SR group and ride with the crowd do that.
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Very nice!!
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I agree! You just spent to have it fixed & finished. Finish it off right!
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If you want a matched group go with the Victory w/ the C-Rec wheels.
I don't know why everyone pooh poohs the Victory and Triomphe groups. The RD dimensions are the same as a SR/NR and the shifter insides are the same so shifting isn't much different. The unique angular styling of the crank appeals to me but I wish they would have made 172.5 arms. Unfortunately time and hording seems to have eliminated any hope of actually being able to use the smaller chain wheels the 116 BCD made possible. The caliper mounted QR is only open or closed but how many of actually use the myriad of positions the barrel of a SR/NR caliper make possible?
Be you own guide if you like Victory use it! If you want to spend money to complete the SR group and ride with the crowd do that.
I don't know why everyone pooh poohs the Victory and Triomphe groups. The RD dimensions are the same as a SR/NR and the shifter insides are the same so shifting isn't much different. The unique angular styling of the crank appeals to me but I wish they would have made 172.5 arms. Unfortunately time and hording seems to have eliminated any hope of actually being able to use the smaller chain wheels the 116 BCD made possible. The caliper mounted QR is only open or closed but how many of actually use the myriad of positions the barrel of a SR/NR caliper make possible?
Be you own guide if you like Victory use it! If you want to spend money to complete the SR group and ride with the crowd do that.
I would rather hang it with 105 than Victory.
Never liked that clunky stuff that much.
SR is the correct choice for that nice frameset.
OP should take their time and do it correctly if going for period.
Or order up an Athena groupset and go modern.
Now that might be cool.
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I'm all for following your own instinct on any build, whatever that may be. That said, I agree with the others that SR (or maybe NR) is the "right" choice for this one. I think this bike kind of demands it (unless you decide it doesn't).
Beautiful frame.
Beautiful frame.
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I have the exact same frame and went modern (so far Veloce 10s but might go 11s Athena at some point).
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I'd build it with whatever you have on hand and slowly add Campy SR stuff as you find it. That's what I'm doing with a couple of deserving late 70's/early 80's bikes. That way you can ride and enjoy, and not have to wait (or spend too much $$).
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