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cafe6am 05-01-15 12:12 PM

Fiorelli - Coppi frame - Need Help
 
Hello! I recently brought a Fiorelli - Coppi frame and i want to restore it. The bike has been standing in a barn for alot of years, but it's in good condition overall. The problem is that someone, in the past, repainted it in gray colour. Even the bottle holder was repainted. Everything. Not the best idea... My question is: what kind of frame is this? Is it a Campionissimo? Is it from the late '70s or early '80s? I took off some gray paint and i think the original one was some kind of orange. What kind of decals should i use for restauration? Thank you!

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jeirvine 05-01-15 12:37 PM

I have what I believe to be a Fiorelli/Coppi 1976 Tour de France Special model. It has similar chromed (and rusty) lugs to yours, and is of 531 tubing, though mine does not have the "C" BB cutout. Other than a couple components (shifters, headset, stem) they look identical. Mine is pearlish orange. Are you sure yours is a repaint? If it fits you, you will really like the ride.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/154kfb5.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/1ffjma.jpg
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2aaiwyh.jpg

Here's mine:
http://www.thejennifers.com/Bike_Pics/CoppiAfield.jpg

cafe6am 05-01-15 12:53 PM

Yes, it's definately a repaint. Under the gray colour is some sort of orange. The frame looks exactly like this one: http://www.steel-vintage.com/fausto-...ge-bike-detail

Some friend of mine assured me that the bike is a Campionissimo, but i still have my doubts. :) It's important to find out, in order to know what kind of decals to buy for restauration.

jeirvine 05-01-15 02:00 PM

I think Campionissimos would have had all Campagnolo Nuovo or Super Record components. Yours (like mine) has a 3ttt seat post, and Gipiemme crank. What brakes and derailleurs has it got? (Assuming they are original). Mine came with Campy Gran Sport shifters/derailleurs, and universal brakes, which are consistent with the Tour de France model specs. I wish there was a decent catalog scan available. There's a 1982 Fiorelli catalog out there, but I think ours are earlier than that.

cafe6am 05-01-15 02:36 PM

The brakes, brake levers and hubs are the first generation of Shimano Dura-Ace. Everything else is Campagnolo Nuovo Record, except the crankset, wich is Gipiemme. But i'm positive the the original crankset was a NR too, because the previous owner kept the Campagnolo dustcaps and screws. Stem and handlebar are Cinelli.

Wileyone 03-25-16 08:04 AM

Beautiful...

There looks to be a lot of Galmozzi influence going on with that Frameset. Does anyone know if there was some sort of a relationship the two had?

-holiday76 03-25-16 08:56 AM

don't know if this helps but I have this Coppi thats been sitting as a frame for a few years. Probably 80's

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1578/...4e146f83_h.jpg

cafe6am 08-10-16 02:08 PM

Hi, guys! Here's an update about the Fiorelli-Coppi Campionissimo frame:

The photos show a Cinelli Campione del Mondo handlebar, wich i recently replaced with a Giro d'Italia model, because the drop was a little too deep. The chainrings also need to be replaced with NR ones.

https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7115/2...fb5132d6_b.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7402/2...ce33d410_b.jpg

https://c4.staticflickr.com/2/1558/2...b32fe005_b.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/2/1513/2...17896d42_b.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/2/1526/2...99efc61a_b.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/2/1586/2...ed797cb7_b.jpg

https://c7.staticflickr.com/2/1677/2...6a364cc2_b.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1582/2...1990b7fa_b.jpg

https://c5.staticflickr.com/2/1642/2...92de387d_b.jpg

francophile 08-10-16 02:16 PM

Holy crap, is that the same bike described in the original post as "repainted silver"? Can't see the original pics, TinyPic purges after a few months, as I recall

cafe6am 08-10-16 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by francophile (Post 18975855)
Holy crap, is that the same bike described in the original post as "repainted silver"? Can't see the original pics, TinyPic purges after a few months, as I recall

Yes, it's the same bike from jeirvine's post.

francophile 08-10-16 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by cafe6am (Post 18976054)
Yes, it's the same bike from jeirvine's post.

That's quite a transformation. Congrats.

qcpmsame 08-10-16 06:54 PM

Another "its hard to believe that is the same bike" here. Fantastic job on the build, really looks like you didn't miss anything as far as the details go. You did some serious polishing work on the components, speaks well of your dedication to the project.

Bill

Spaghetti Legs 08-10-16 08:12 PM

Spectacular! Well done!

cafe6am 08-11-16 01:01 AM

Thanks! I did polish the crankset because it was already polished when i brought it so it was the only way to go, but the other components are new or almost new, they did not need any polishing. More photos, here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/539726...57659350575851

Yes, it's quite a transformation, the frame was worth it: it had no dents, no rust, so it now has a new life. It gets ridden from time to time.

T-Mar 08-11-16 10:10 AM

Very nice job. :thumb: However, I think it is newer than the date on you photo album. The short Nuovo Record dropouts weren't introduced until 1978 and are typically seen in the drilled, Portacatena version until circa 1982. The recessed mount brakes weren't catalogued by Campagnolo until 1982 though conversions were available in 1981. Consequently, I don't believe this frame is older than circa 1981-1982. Circa 1985-1986 dual bottle bosses and pump pegs started becoming standard, so I don't think it's newer than that. I'd place this circa 1982-1985.

jeirvine 08-11-16 12:05 PM

Utterly fabulous job. Haw did you restore the chrome lugs? That's what's holding me back from un-patinating mine.

cafe6am 08-11-16 12:12 PM

Thanks! The lugs were re-chromed.


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