Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Fiorelli - Coppi frame - Need Help

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Fiorelli - Coppi frame - Need Help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-01-15 | 12:12 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Fiorelli - Coppi frame - Need Help

Hello! I recently brought a Fiorelli - Coppi frame and i want to restore it. The bike has been standing in a barn for alot of years, but it's in good condition overall. The problem is that someone, in the past, repainted it in gray colour. Even the bottle holder was repainted. Everything. Not the best idea... My question is: what kind of frame is this? Is it a Campionissimo? Is it from the late '70s or early '80s? I took off some gray paint and i think the original one was some kind of orange. What kind of decals should i use for restauration? Thank you!

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting

Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
cafe6am is offline  
Reply
Old 05-01-15 | 12:37 PM
  #2  
jeirvine's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,372
Likes: 598
From: Baltimore MD

Bikes: '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '72 Gitane tandem, '72 Raleigh Super Course, '73 Raleigh Gran Sport, '73 Colnago Super, '76 Fiorelli Coppi, '78 Raleigh SBDU Team Pro, '78 Trek 930, '81 Holdsworth Special 650B, '86 Masi GC, ’94 Bridgestone RB-T

I have what I believe to be a Fiorelli/Coppi 1976 Tour de France Special model. It has similar chromed (and rusty) lugs to yours, and is of 531 tubing, though mine does not have the "C" BB cutout. Other than a couple components (shifters, headset, stem) they look identical. Mine is pearlish orange. Are you sure yours is a repaint? If it fits you, you will really like the ride.




Here's mine:
__________________
The man who dies with the most toys…is dead. - Rootboy
jeirvine is offline  
Reply
Old 05-01-15 | 12:53 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Yes, it's definately a repaint. Under the gray colour is some sort of orange. The frame looks exactly like this one: https://www.steel-vintage.com/fausto-...ge-bike-detail

Some friend of mine assured me that the bike is a Campionissimo, but i still have my doubts. It's important to find out, in order to know what kind of decals to buy for restauration.

Last edited by cafe6am; 05-01-15 at 12:59 PM.
cafe6am is offline  
Reply
Old 05-01-15 | 02:00 PM
  #4  
jeirvine's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,372
Likes: 598
From: Baltimore MD

Bikes: '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '72 Gitane tandem, '72 Raleigh Super Course, '73 Raleigh Gran Sport, '73 Colnago Super, '76 Fiorelli Coppi, '78 Raleigh SBDU Team Pro, '78 Trek 930, '81 Holdsworth Special 650B, '86 Masi GC, ’94 Bridgestone RB-T

I think Campionissimos would have had all Campagnolo Nuovo or Super Record components. Yours (like mine) has a 3ttt seat post, and Gipiemme crank. What brakes and derailleurs has it got? (Assuming they are original). Mine came with Campy Gran Sport shifters/derailleurs, and universal brakes, which are consistent with the Tour de France model specs. I wish there was a decent catalog scan available. There's a 1982 Fiorelli catalog out there, but I think ours are earlier than that.
__________________
The man who dies with the most toys…is dead. - Rootboy
jeirvine is offline  
Reply
Old 05-01-15 | 02:36 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
The brakes, brake levers and hubs are the first generation of Shimano Dura-Ace. Everything else is Campagnolo Nuovo Record, except the crankset, wich is Gipiemme. But i'm positive the the original crankset was a NR too, because the previous owner kept the Campagnolo dustcaps and screws. Stem and handlebar are Cinelli.
cafe6am is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-16 | 08:04 AM
  #6  
Wileyone's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,539
Likes: 743
From: GWN
Beautiful...

There looks to be a lot of Galmozzi influence going on with that Frameset. Does anyone know if there was some sort of a relationship the two had?
Wileyone is offline  
Reply
Old 03-25-16 | 08:56 AM
  #7  
-holiday76's Avatar
No one cares
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 6,288
Likes: 615
From: Bucks County, Pa
don't know if this helps but I have this Coppi thats been sitting as a frame for a few years. Probably 80's

__________________
I have some bikes.




-holiday76 is online now  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 02:08 PM
  #8  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Hi, guys! Here's an update about the Fiorelli-Coppi Campionissimo frame:

The photos show a Cinelli Campione del Mondo handlebar, wich i recently replaced with a Giro d'Italia model, because the drop was a little too deep. The chainrings also need to be replaced with NR ones.


















Last edited by cafe6am; 08-10-16 at 02:49 PM.
cafe6am is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 02:16 PM
  #9  
francophile's Avatar
PM me your cotters
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,280
Likes: 631
From: ATL
Holy crap, is that the same bike described in the original post as "repainted silver"? Can't see the original pics, TinyPic purges after a few months, as I recall
francophile is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 03:47 PM
  #10  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by francophile
Holy crap, is that the same bike described in the original post as "repainted silver"? Can't see the original pics, TinyPic purges after a few months, as I recall
Yes, it's the same bike from jeirvine's post.

Last edited by cafe6am; 08-10-16 at 03:56 PM.
cafe6am is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 06:22 PM
  #11  
francophile's Avatar
PM me your cotters
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,280
Likes: 631
From: ATL
Originally Posted by cafe6am
Yes, it's the same bike from jeirvine's post.
That's quite a transformation. Congrats.
francophile is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 06:54 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,940
Likes: 363
Another "its hard to believe that is the same bike" here. Fantastic job on the build, really looks like you didn't miss anything as far as the details go. You did some serious polishing work on the components, speaks well of your dedication to the project.

Bill
qcpmsame is offline  
Reply
Old 08-10-16 | 08:12 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 5,360
Likes: 5,233
From: Central Virginia

Bikes: Numerous

Spectacular! Well done!
Spaghetti Legs is offline  
Reply
Old 08-11-16 | 01:01 AM
  #14  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Thanks! I did polish the crankset because it was already polished when i brought it so it was the only way to go, but the other components are new or almost new, they did not need any polishing. More photos, here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/539726...57659350575851

Yes, it's quite a transformation, the frame was worth it: it had no dents, no rust, so it now has a new life. It gets ridden from time to time.
cafe6am is offline  
Reply
Old 08-11-16 | 10:10 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,212
Likes: 3,123
Very nice job. However, I think it is newer than the date on you photo album. The short Nuovo Record dropouts weren't introduced until 1978 and are typically seen in the drilled, Portacatena version until circa 1982. The recessed mount brakes weren't catalogued by Campagnolo until 1982 though conversions were available in 1981. Consequently, I don't believe this frame is older than circa 1981-1982. Circa 1985-1986 dual bottle bosses and pump pegs started becoming standard, so I don't think it's newer than that. I'd place this circa 1982-1985.
T-Mar is offline  
Reply
Old 08-11-16 | 12:05 PM
  #16  
jeirvine's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,372
Likes: 598
From: Baltimore MD

Bikes: '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '72 Gitane tandem, '72 Raleigh Super Course, '73 Raleigh Gran Sport, '73 Colnago Super, '76 Fiorelli Coppi, '78 Raleigh SBDU Team Pro, '78 Trek 930, '81 Holdsworth Special 650B, '86 Masi GC, ’94 Bridgestone RB-T

Utterly fabulous job. Haw did you restore the chrome lugs? That's what's holding me back from un-patinating mine.
__________________
The man who dies with the most toys…is dead. - Rootboy
jeirvine is offline  
Reply
Old 08-11-16 | 12:12 PM
  #17  
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Thanks! The lugs were re-chromed.
cafe6am is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
chico81
Classic & Vintage
19
05-27-19 03:12 AM
jokru
Classic & Vintage
11
04-22-19 01:45 PM
VictorKnox
Classic & Vintage
8
06-17-18 03:47 PM
Dawes-man
Classic & Vintage
12
05-11-13 09:50 PM
matthewayres
Classic & Vintage
13
10-15-11 07:49 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.