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Originally Posted by jimmuller
(Post 17824610)
I would think the trouble with using a punch is it contacts only the out point of the notch, producing rounded corners like those in Soody's pic. Once you've damaged them this way a real BB tool will no longer grip. Once they are damaged you have no choice but to further the damage.
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I would be concerned about this too, Jim. Just not the right tool for the job. However, a clever mechanic who has a bench grinder could shape the business end of a round drift punch to fit up to the notch properly. Still, I'd use the right tool.
Originally Posted by jimmuller
(Post 17824610)
I would think the trouble with using a punch is it contacts only the out point of the notch, producing rounded corners like those in Soody's pic. Once you've damaged them this way a real BB tool will no longer grip. Once they are damaged you have no choice but to further the damage.
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I used a piece of 1/2" copper water pipe and a plastic-faced hammer before I got the VAR pliers. All of the damage was done to the tubing and I would cut it off when it got too bad. I had lots of pieces of copper tubing on hand after re-plumbing my entire house. It also works well for driving out headsets.
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This thread is sort of making me roll my eyes as people discuss options with no acknowledgement of the BBT-7... I was thinking "do I need to post a giant photo?" I know this says it is a shimano/DA tool, but the lock rings on high end BB's all fit this glorious tool! Then I went to the park site.. .couldn't find it! Maybe they discontinued it!? Get it while you still can and you will wonder why you don't have it already... I have never used this tool on DA or XTR, I bought it for Campy/sugino and other quality bottom brackets and it works perfect. I HAVE the hozan pliers, they are nice. This is better and A LOT cheaper.
Park BBT 7 Bottom Bracket Tool Dura ACE XTR | eBay |
All my life I have used the Sugino hook spanner. At least since the mid-1970's.
I often apply the hook spanner while simultaneously applying a cup pin tool, for two-armed (more balanced) torque application! Upon reassembly, for that final adjustment, I again use both tools. Fist homing in on the exact lockring position on the cup that will allow both the cup and lockring to be turned together into a perfect state of adjustment and tightness. An additional advantage of this final tightening is that since the cup is turning under high load, the threads get settled much better in the bb shell so the cup stays tight. Otherwise, dirt and rust may conspire to allow this threaded interface to settle while riding, which of course causes a loss of lockring tension. The threaded interface between cup and lockring is under much higher stress, just those few threads, so needs no help settling. |
If a Campag BB , then Tulio's 712 tool engages 5 notches of their lockrings.
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One nice thing about the pliers (VAR, Hozan, or DIY) is that they more easily fit lockrings with different diameters, such as those found on track hubs and some headsets.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 17824635)
Back in my shop days I used a wide variety of lock ring tools...except for the pliers type. Never really like those.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 17820174)
There's also the DIY option:
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