Hi
new to the forum and new to road cycling at the young age of 54 ! First 66km Sportive completed yesterday. All good.
Have bought an older bike to enter classic ride events from a dealer. Bike is claimed to be a Dancelli and i have no reason to doubt however the pantograph does not match some of the Dancelli forks i have seen on the internet. Can anyone help with this ?
Thanks
Andy

Welcome to the forums agaman. Nice looking bike.

It is always possible the fork is a replacement, or some forks were built by someone else to fill a large order. I believe Dancelli is still operating in some capacity, one of our members got a real nice frame build a few years ago, perhaps an email to them could clear things up.

I'm not really an expert on Dancelli's, but it looks legit to me.

The stars on the fork crown do match the stars on the lugs, and the chromed fork matches the chrome chain stay, so, my guess is it's OK. Does it say anything under the BB? Any panto on the seat stay caps?

Dancellis aren't really a bike that somebody would fake. Colnago's are far more popular for that sort of thing.

Looks like a fast mover. Enjoy it and welcome to this crazy place!

Forgeries in the bike world are 99% just bad resprays with Colnago decals. Bikes like this nice italian beauty are more often than not the victims, not the targets of such forgeries.

that said, welcome to the forums and enjoy that beauty!

...looks OK to me. As stated above, nobody would go to that much trouble to counterfeit a bike that has low name recognition.
All makers forks vary over the years and sometimes with the model of the bike. Yours looks very pretty.

Looks gorgeous! One thing to check on (sorry!) if you're planning on L'Eroica or the like, brake cables must be outside the bars:

" 6.1 – BICYCLES
Historical Bikes (also called Bici Eroiche in Italian) are all road racing bikes built in 1987 or earlier both with gears and without gears, as those built in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. These bicycles most likely have a steel frame, but also other types of rare frames are permitted, such as the aluminium frames built by Alan and Vitus with screwed or glued joints and the Exxon Graftek frames of the late 1970’s with carbon tubes glued to aluminium lugs.
Regarding the components the bicycles should be in line with the following general guidelines:
a) more recent bikes with gears and derailleurs, such as Simplex, Huret, Campagnolo, Zeus, Shimano, Suntour, etc. must have shift levers on the down tube of the frame; exceptions include pre-1980 non indexed bar-end gear shifters and rod/hand manual operated front derailleurs;
b) pedals should be with toe clips and straps or, for older bikes, as the original pedals; quick release, clip-less pedals are not allowed;
c) the brake cables must pass outside and over the handlebars (cables can pass inside the frame)"

https://www.eroicagaiole.com/regulation

Thanks for the quick replies. Am I correct in my research that Dancelli bike frames were made by Colnago under the Dancelli name ?
The bike will arrive with me this week so when i get the bike i will check bottom bracket for markings.
Any other tips ?

Thanks
Andy

agreed on the brakes. Am looking at period correct Shimano brake levers with cables outside the handlebars .

...the actual maker of many Italian bicycle cycles is one of the grayer areas, somewhat shrouded in mystery. For example, I know that the brothers who made and sold Rauler bicycles did a lot of work for Colnago, so made some of those. Similarly, a lot of contract building has gone over the years, to the point that a name is not a good indication of the actual manufacturer in many cases.

Yours has enough pantographing, for example, to be reminiscent of many of the Rauler productions. Someone else probably knows more than I do.

Certainly looks like a Colnago built frame to me. Nice score.

I wouldn't worry about any Colnago connection.

Dancelli was a well respected frame in it's own right and this one is Columbus SL, which is a very nice tubing and my personal favorite.

well i am very positive now thanks to the comments and replies. will keep you updated when the Dancelli arrives..

This is my first encounter with Dancelli...but...I have to say...gorgeous bike! I love the color! Enjoy!