What year to qualify for C&V?
06-08-15 | 12:03 PM
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What year to qualify for C&V?
I was hoping to find this in a search or stickies, but nothing in 45 minutes reading. How old must a bike be to be considered Classic or vintage? is 15 years enough? 20 years?
And if age is not the only factor, what else factors in?
My Apologies if this is common knowledge, I just want to set my record straight!
And if age is not the only factor, what else factors in?
My Apologies if this is common knowledge, I just want to set my record straight!
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06-08-15 | 12:07 PM
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I don't think there is a cutoff. Maybe there is for "vintage." A built-yesterday steel, lugged frame could certainly be consider "classic."
Some places, like Classic Rendezvous do have a cutoff year (1983 I believe), but allow "keepers of the flame" for modern bikes built in classic styles.
Some places, like Classic Rendezvous do have a cutoff year (1983 I believe), but allow "keepers of the flame" for modern bikes built in classic styles.
06-08-15 | 12:09 PM
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Kind of a moving target, and it depends whom you ask. I think Classic Rendezvous is the most conservative about it, 70s are as late as it gets for them.
L'Eroica uses 1987 as a cut off for a few reasons -- indexed shifting, aero brake levers, and clipless pedals all debuted (or at least took over) around then, give or take.
I'm a bit more liberal with the term. I think anything made before 2000 can qualify, depending on what it is. All the classic mountain bikes, for example, hail from the early '90s.
L'Eroica uses 1987 as a cut off for a few reasons -- indexed shifting, aero brake levers, and clipless pedals all debuted (or at least took over) around then, give or take.
I'm a bit more liberal with the term. I think anything made before 2000 can qualify, depending on what it is. All the classic mountain bikes, for example, hail from the early '90s.
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06-08-15 | 12:15 PM
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(And I don't just say that because most of my bikes are from 1987-1991 and have some combination of indexed shifting, aero brake levers, or non-lugged construction.
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06-08-15 | 12:33 PM
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C&V is an attitude, not a number. Basically if you have any interest in what we talk about here, you can post about anything you want. Even old bikes.
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06-08-15 | 01:02 PM
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[MENTION=308402]shoota[/MENTION] - How did you pick 1897? There was a lot going on in those years, huge changes and lots of variations.
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06-08-15 | 01:07 PM
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@shoota - How did you pick 1897? There was a lot going on in those years, huge changes and lots of variations.
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06-08-15 | 01:11 PM
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06-08-15 | 01:55 PM
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It's all a matter of opinion/subjective to each C&Ver.
For me, personally, I see the 20 year cutoff as pretty good......., and I think I'm being pretty generous with that number.....
For me, personally, I see the 20 year cutoff as pretty good......., and I think I'm being pretty generous with that number.....
06-08-15 | 03:01 PM
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cool, good info,
I assumed there wasn't a right answer, just curious as i see a range of bikes posted in C&V, some I would not think of as vintage.
I suppose there are guidelines in everything, so I'm more interested in guidelines than rules. everything has an answer, degrees of finality are the difference.
all the best
I assumed there wasn't a right answer, just curious as i see a range of bikes posted in C&V, some I would not think of as vintage.
I suppose there are guidelines in everything, so I'm more interested in guidelines than rules. everything has an answer, degrees of finality are the difference.
all the best
06-08-15 | 03:37 PM
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There's a nice young man here with a REALLY cool bike that's very classically oriented- but hails from around the turn of the century. He won't post it here much because of the ****storm about the designer and it's age.
I think that's sad that someone with a level top tubed, steel framed (probably 531) bike feels like he would be 'targeted' or something.
If I had a Rivendell, or a custom or something to that effect- something that elicits that "Classic" "thing" that most of us* seem to appreciate- I'd be posting it here every day. Hell, I'd post it more if people gave me **** about it.
*I hate to even attempt to speak of "us," but many people here share an affinity for the same type of bicycle.
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Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!
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06-08-15 | 04:09 PM
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No, and it is something I've been lately thinking about while in the saddle. I'm the absolute last person on these forums to make such a cut and dried statement. I'm a frankenbike freak myself. Love to mix and match.