Campy education help
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Campy education help
Spending my spare time building my dream bike in my head while I wait for the frame to arrive, I am completely confused and uneducated as to which componentry I should choose.
I have a vague idea of what I want, but I don't know how to get there.
Ideally, I would like all of the weightlessness, range, and ergonomics of the new carbon record groups, but with the the beauty and simple esthetics of the old alloy groups.
I wish they would reintroduce a retro inspired group. Pipe dream.
Are there any good threads that come to mind comparing the differences/nuances between levels and mixes of campy builds?
I have no knowledge of which parts can be mixed successfully and which won't go together.
Ideally, I would just pick a new 11 speed groupset to base the build on, but they seem to be very proud of those. Even the ones that looked like they've been drug across the pavement a few times command decent prices.
So if I stay within campy 10 speed groups, say mid eighties til present time, is there a reference source I can use to know that the pieces I gather will work?
Any help greatly appreciated.
I have a vague idea of what I want, but I don't know how to get there.
Ideally, I would like all of the weightlessness, range, and ergonomics of the new carbon record groups, but with the the beauty and simple esthetics of the old alloy groups.
I wish they would reintroduce a retro inspired group. Pipe dream.
Are there any good threads that come to mind comparing the differences/nuances between levels and mixes of campy builds?
I have no knowledge of which parts can be mixed successfully and which won't go together.
Ideally, I would just pick a new 11 speed groupset to base the build on, but they seem to be very proud of those. Even the ones that looked like they've been drug across the pavement a few times command decent prices.
So if I stay within campy 10 speed groups, say mid eighties til present time, is there a reference source I can use to know that the pieces I gather will work?
Any help greatly appreciated.
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You can get modern 11-speed Athena in what is IMO a nice alloy finish. Buy from Ribble in the UK, the prices are way, way better than here, and you won't pay the VAT. Veloce 10 speed also comes in silver and costs more than $100 less.
Campagnolo 2015 Athena Silver 11 Spd Double Groupset at Ribble Cycles
Campagnolo 2015 Athena Silver 11 Spd Double Groupset at Ribble Cycles
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Get Athena. It's exactly what you're looking for. Plenty of 10 speed groups came in alloy, as well. The only one they currently make in 10 speed is Veloce, but you can find Record or Chorus easily on eBay in alloy 10 speed with a little patience.
Campagnolo Record 10 Speed Group Triple Carbon Shifters | eBay
Campagnolo Record 10 Speed Group Triple Carbon Shifters | eBay
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I can't believe how inexpensive that stuff on Ribble is.
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Good to know, and thanks for the info. So, can a new Athena group go with an old record 53/39 crank?
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Athena comes in 53/39 as well.
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Good point, but I notice the Pound Sterling has remained at about $1.55 or $1.60 for a long time.
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Either way, you'd be crazy to not buy a new groupset from Europe if you were in the market right now. A friend of mine just bought a full Athena group from the LBS and paid almost exactly twice Ribble's price.
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Euro value affects UK exports in other ways. Ribble is buying Campy from a Euro zone manufacturer and we see the savings reflected. Also, I bet a lot of Ribble's customers are on the continent, so reduced sales from the weak Euro has probably affected prices, too.
Either way, you'd be crazy to not buy a new groupset from Europe if you were in the market right now. A friend of mine just bought a full Athena group from the LBS and paid almost exactly twice Ribble's price.
Either way, you'd be crazy to not buy a new groupset from Europe if you were in the market right now. A friend of mine just bought a full Athena group from the LBS and paid almost exactly twice Ribble's price.

I am seriously considering buying an 11 speed 105 group for no good reason. I don't have a bike for it. I just feel like I will at some point, and it's less than $400!
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I think it's better to buy a modern 11 speed alloy group (Athena) than to hunt down a used (and maybe 10 year old) alloy Record or Chorus group.
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