Snipers beware!
#51
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If eBay prevents sniping, I would just about quit bidding on items. The only items I would buy through eBay would be "Buy It Now" listings.
Since I started using a sniper, I have been winning a much higher percentage of auctions that I bid on. If I don't win, the price was higher than I was willing to pay. I always place my bid through a sniper for the most I would be willing to pay or what the item is worth to me. Often I end up winning auctions for much less than my maximum bid could have been.
Before I started using a sniper, I was routinely getting outbid on auctions at the very last second. I had just about quit bidding on items because I always lost. This was particularly true for auctions that ended at times when I was unable to watch the auction and bid near the end. If eBay started banning snipers, it seems to me that it would ultimately hurt their business and bottom line. I for one would substantially cut back my shopping on eBay.
Since I started using a sniper, I have been winning a much higher percentage of auctions that I bid on. If I don't win, the price was higher than I was willing to pay. I always place my bid through a sniper for the most I would be willing to pay or what the item is worth to me. Often I end up winning auctions for much less than my maximum bid could have been.
Before I started using a sniper, I was routinely getting outbid on auctions at the very last second. I had just about quit bidding on items because I always lost. This was particularly true for auctions that ended at times when I was unable to watch the auction and bid near the end. If eBay started banning snipers, it seems to me that it would ultimately hurt their business and bottom line. I for one would substantially cut back my shopping on eBay.
#52
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I don't think you understand the concept of the "snipe."
You put in a "snipe" for the maximum amount you want to pay. You go away- you find out later if you "won."
If someone was willing to pay more than you- you lost.
If you put in a bid for the maximum amount you want to pay- that allows someone else to say "I want it more" and out bid you. If anything, that's more like being a dick- outbidding some poor schmuck who put his all out on the table. If you did that, that would be rude. You make a conscious decision to "beat" that person. I don't want to be "that guy."
You put in a "snipe" for the maximum amount you want to pay. You go away- you find out later if you "won."
If someone was willing to pay more than you- you lost.
If you put in a bid for the maximum amount you want to pay- that allows someone else to say "I want it more" and out bid you. If anything, that's more like being a dick- outbidding some poor schmuck who put his all out on the table. If you did that, that would be rude. You make a conscious decision to "beat" that person. I don't want to be "that guy."
#53
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251243445560 15.99
160986626444 21.50
111026073739 25.50
The program works through the list, submits my bids as the auctions get close to ending, and exits once I've won one of the saddles.
#54
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If eBay prevents sniping, I would just about quit bidding on items. The only items I would buy through eBay would be "Buy It Now" listings.
Since I started using a sniper, I have been winning a much higher percentage of auctions that I bid on. If I don't win, the price was higher than I was willing to pay. I always place my bid through a sniper for the most I would be willing to pay or what the item is worth to me. Often I end up winning auctions for much less than my maximum bid could have been.
Before I started using a sniper, I was routinely getting outbid on auctions at the very last second. I had just about quit bidding on items because I always lost. This was particularly true for auctions that ended at times when I was unable to watch the auction and bid near the end. If eBay started banning snipers, it seems to me that it would ultimately hurt their business and bottom line. I for one would substantially cut back my shopping on eBay.
Since I started using a sniper, I have been winning a much higher percentage of auctions that I bid on. If I don't win, the price was higher than I was willing to pay. I always place my bid through a sniper for the most I would be willing to pay or what the item is worth to me. Often I end up winning auctions for much less than my maximum bid could have been.
Before I started using a sniper, I was routinely getting outbid on auctions at the very last second. I had just about quit bidding on items because I always lost. This was particularly true for auctions that ended at times when I was unable to watch the auction and bid near the end. If eBay started banning snipers, it seems to me that it would ultimately hurt their business and bottom line. I for one would substantially cut back my shopping on eBay.
We will see what transpires, after ebay/paypal split. The true situation for day will surface, revenues would really be declining if not for the higher fees, and final value fee add on for shipping…
Ebay really wants to compete with Amazon.
#55
Probably true, and in light of this verification issue, I will be more inclined to list items that way, at least items of any real financial consequence.
As much as I don't like winning an item because my bid was blocked, I would feel worse wondering if bids were blocked on an item I sold. And I would be pretty hot if a would-be buyer contacted me to let me know his/her bid was blocked. I wonder what the corporate response would be under that scenario.
As much as I don't like winning an item because my bid was blocked, I would feel worse wondering if bids were blocked on an item I sold. And I would be pretty hot if a would-be buyer contacted me to let me know his/her bid was blocked. I wonder what the corporate response would be under that scenario.
#56
Yes, as noted: "Most eBay bids are proxy bids. If everybody understood that, figured out how much they wanted to pay, and bid their maximum, sniping would not be useful. However, many bidders have no idea how much they want to pay, so they bid in small increments until they beat your proxy. If you bid your maximum at the end of the auction, you greatly reduce the chances of being bid up by such a bidder."
I rarely make a bid prior to a minute before auction close. I almost always swoop in with 5 seconds left. Why would I want to want to compete against clueless low-feedback bidders, or tit-for-tat revenge bidders, or worst: shill bidders? There is no point to making an advance proxy bid.
If I were to put in a proxy bid on a big ticket item, there is nothing to prevent some shill from picking away with $1 increment bids until my high bid was disclosed. So I've won the auction, but been forced to pay the absolute highest amount I was prepared to pay. Every time; no deals.
If Ebay were to change the rules such that the end time of an auction was no longer fixed, there would be far more shill bid activity, and I would stop using Ebay.






