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3alarmer 07-09-15 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 17965823)
Okay, I'm convinced this FD is a POC. Anyone want to trade me a lip-less Campy NR or SR for this post-CPSC SR model? (and, yes, I'm serious--straight trade.)

...why don't you use the preferred mechanical solution and hit it with a hammer ? :wtf:

obrentharris 07-10-15 09:25 AM

Physics and engineering are not my strong suits so I'm afraid that, like most of the other contributors to this thread, I can offer no helpful information.

I have, however, after many decades of cycling, developed a nerve which runs directly from my ears to my hands such that any noise from the drivetrain is followed instantly by shifting to any gear that will remove the painful stimulus: Faced with your dilemma I would probably shift to a larger cog and pedal like crazy. (It is possible that physiology is also not my strong suit and that I am, once again, full of baloney.)

In my brazen youth I have been known to grind the lip off of a post CPSC Campy dérailleur in order to turn it into a pre CPSC model, for a mountain bike of all things, with TA cranks! Perhaps the preservation of rare and classic items is also not my strong suit. In fact I probably have no strong suit, but muddling along and messing with bikes is ok by me.

Road Fan 07-10-15 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 17966328)
Ah, that's why you engineers want to study everything over time--you're paid by the hour!

Not in my case, I'm on salary. But the opinions of many of us are used to make weighty decisions on safety or investment. One tends to think, how can I do this right?

Road Fan 07-10-15 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 17966381)
There's nothing wrong with your SR front derailleur; it's just not designed to work with pre-CPSC cranks. As I have a number of vintage cranks that need the pre-CSPC version, I'm reluctant part with any usable front derailleurs. Other front derailleurs that will work include Zeus Criterium, 1st edition Dura-Ace, SunTour Compe, SL, or 1st edition Cyclone, and Simplex Super LJ, among others.

Huret Jubilee will also work.

Sir_Name 07-10-15 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 17966328)
Ah, that's why you engineers want to study everything over time--you're paid by the hour!

d$/dt, baby!

gugie 07-10-15 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 17965001)
Unfortunately, my mechanic seems to be spending all of his time these days riding rather than wrenching.

Take a break from riding and fix the dang thing! You don't actually take your bike to someone, do you? Mike didn't teach you anything?:lol:

gugie 07-10-15 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Road Fan (Post 17967838)
Not in my case, I'm on salary. But the opinions of many of us are used to make weighty decisions on safety or investment. One tends to think, how can I do this right?

Not me, I tend to think, what will get my boss from bugging me? I've got forum posts to make, doesn't he know?

gugie 07-10-15 11:56 AM

crank bang


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 17965383)
Can he say that?

The decursorator didn't catch it, so yes.

gugie 07-10-15 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by 3alarmer (Post 17965656)
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...has anyone yet considered the weight savings gained in comparing the two different mechanical interference mechanisms as a function of time ?

If we graph the friction caused by both methods, the force vs time graph approaches zero. To expedite matters, take a file and accelerate the break in period, and viola! No rubbing issues.

nlerner 07-10-15 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by gugie (Post 17968344)
Take a break from riding and fix the dang thing! You don't actually take your bike to someone, do you? Mike didn't teach you anything?:lol:

I actually don't remember Mike teaching me anything. I was the service manager! He was mostly concerned with sales (and the part-time employees taking too long for their breaks).

As far as repairs, I just tend to grab another bike. That's one justification for having a basement full. I'll get to the Int'l at some point. However, on today's ride my Lemond was making all sorts of awful crackling noises under load. Crank arm bolts were tight as were pedals. I'm going to fire my mechanic again.

gugie 07-10-15 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 17968823)
I actually don't remember Mike teaching me anything.

That would make two of us!

USAZorro 07-10-15 03:22 PM

Who's this "Mike"? :lol:

nlerner 07-10-15 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by USAZorro (Post 17969003)
Who's this "Mike"? :lol:

Co-owner of a bike shop in Palo Alto, CA, where gugie and I both happen to have worked bitd.

USAZorro 07-10-15 07:30 PM

ah - yet another here with a secret past life. I'd speak more openly about mine, but... :innocent:


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