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Old 07-31-15 | 03:39 PM
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source for keyed pedal washers?

i've run into this a few times before: i get my hands on some great vintage pedals worth $30-$50, i start to overhaul them, and later realize i can't adjust their lock nuts due to a stripped tooth on the keyed washer.

is there a source for cheap keyed washers besides another set of expensive pedals?

the latest find was a beautiful pair of campy record knockoffs, kkt pro ace pedals. they're awesome. but neither washer has any tooth left. here's a pic of the washer:



washer dimensions:
13mm outside diameter
7mm inside diameter
1mm long (missing) key/tooth
2mm washer depth

i'll keep looking in the 'used' bin at my lbs, but i do wish i had about twenty of these keyed washers in slightly different sizes.
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you can see the 'key' (tooth) at the bottom of the washer that finally failed after 35 years.
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Scott at SD BICYCLE GARAGE has those keyed washers for Campagnolo pedals I believe.
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Old 07-31-15 | 07:13 PM
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^ thank you. i'll give him a shout.

on a related campy note ... i've only one experience with real campy road pedals (with the strap guide) i assume on which these 'pro ace' pedals are based. when i overhauled those campy ones, i was in love with their design that allowed a hub cone wrench to stabilize the pedal cone while i tightened the lock nut. there was no need for a keyed washer! i wish the cone of these kkt pedals (and all c&v platforms for that matter) protruded out far enough to allow the same ease of service. but, so it goes...
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I use a small punch and vise to "pinch" the inside of the washer then use a small file to make another "Key". It's worked plenty of times for me.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
I use a small punch and vise to "pinch" the inside of the washer then use a small file to make another "Key"...
man, i wish i knew how to do that. if you could expand on that method, please do.
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Old 08-01-15 | 07:44 AM
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The KKT Pro-Ace was a faithful copy of Campagnolo's pedal, and parts that fit Campagnolo pedals will also work with the Pro-Ace. Not just Campagnolo parts, but also those from Gipiemme, Ofmega, and others. Pedals axle sets for these appear on eBay every so often, so keep your eyes peeled.
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Originally Posted by Michael Angelo
I use a small punch and vise to "pinch" the inside of the washer then use a small file to make another "Key". It's worked plenty of times for me.
I've done the same to rejuvenate a botched washer. eschlwch, just strike the old washer tab with a punch, it will push enough material out to make the tab useful again. A work of caution, it will be weaker than the original so use care.

M Angelo- You've formed tabs on new washers this way?
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Take a washer with same OD, but a Smaller ID and file away enough to leave the tab when you're finished .

I've stopped the cone from Rotating with a Screwdriver against its flats , while I tightened the Nut with a wrench ,
which is the function of the tab . before..

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Originally Posted by Vintage Raleigh
Scott at SD BICYCLE GARAGE has those keyed washers for Campagnolo pedals I believe.
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yep. he got back to me today with washer dimensions and affordable pricing.

the campy washers have a smaller o.d. and depth, but the i.d. is basically the same, so i'm going to try them.

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Scott is a good guy to deal with, no?
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Scott is a good guy to deal with, no?
Came across Scott's eBay store and bought a nos steel Campagnolo pedal dust cap for the Raleigh. Goods delivered in a timely manner. Costs reasonable. No probs. Contacted him on another bike related enquiry - (a Nuovo Record seat pillar) via his website without realising I'd already had dealings with him and he got back to me quickly. The pillar was nos and $50 cheaper than another eBay seller. Emailed him again about a pedal washer (of all things - probably sparked by this post) which I thought was missing, he was very helpful and through his deductions, concluded the washer I had was added by a previous repair. Scott asked if the pedal shafts were the same length or whether the thread was damaged hence the washer. He didn't have to do any of those things.
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yeah, baby!

got the campy washers today from scott at sdbicyclegarage.com, and they worked like a charm.

you can see they're a little smaller than the originals, but the i.d. is roughly the same. i didn't need to do any filing.



didn't struggle with adjusting these at all. took about five minutes for both.

these 35 year old kkt pro ace pedals are now like new!

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Glad you got a result!
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^ yep. and thanks a lot to you for your post.
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