Roberts nude.
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Roberts nude.
Roberts is stripped and off to Tomii.
All 531/Campy dropouts
20150828_125224 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125206 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125151 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125246 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125256 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125310 by flog00, on Flickr
All 531/Campy dropouts
20150828_125224 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125206 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125151 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125246 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125256 by flog00, on Flickr
20150828_125310 by flog00, on Flickr
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Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder
I didn't see my Mooney stripped but I did get to see and handle the new fork that went with that paint job. And a clean Peter Mooney fork is a joy to behold. I saw both my customs in pre paint or decal mode, but they were welded ti, not lugger steel.
Clean metal work is beautiful.
Ben
Clean metal work is beautiful.
Ben
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As Nao Tomii finds time, a few updates 
Untitled by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Untitled by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Hey, Kickstands are cool. by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Chain Stay Protector by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Chain Stay Protector by Nao Tomii, on Flickr

Untitled by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Untitled by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Hey, Kickstands are cool. by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Chain Stay Protector by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
Chain Stay Protector by Nao Tomii, on Flickr
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I feel that if you are going to renovate a frame, the renovation should exceed the original in all ways. You have done exactly that. Very, very nice. I never, ever, ever expected that I'd agree with adding a kick-stand plate, but you have changed my mind!
What is the serial number of your Roberts?
Please post more pics!
What is the serial number of your Roberts?
Please post more pics!
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That's a really nice frame. I don't know much about c&v frames, so I was
wondering what the idea is behind having no shifter bosses. I realize a ring
with bosses can go on the downtube, but is that to offer flexibility in
placement?
wondering what the idea is behind having no shifter bosses. I realize a ring
with bosses can go on the downtube, but is that to offer flexibility in
placement?
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Very impressive flog! I love your posts.
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The bike will have extra water bottle mounts, downtube tube shifter bosses, spread the rear to 130 and have a curved seat stay bridge replace the straight, new canti mounts front and rear, cable stay for rear brakes, extra fender and rack braze-ons for future flexibility, cables run below BB. Nao removed the rack mounts from inside the stays and brazed new one outside.
I also told Nao to do anything else he sees fit, hence the leather chain slap deal. I'm not sure if I'll like it but I trust Nao, some stuff on the Tomii I wasn't sure but it is a perfect result IMO.
I'm going to put a modern drive train on it. I've found that I just ride the bikes with brifters etc. more often. Likely 2x11 as I did on my Tomii. Paul brakes and the VO style rando racks.
Probably 35mm Compass tires with 45mm Tanaka or Honjo fenders.
Roberts is a well regarded builder, and Roberts was my Mom’s maiden name so
I think it’s cool to have one.
All my bikes will eventually be my daughter Sarah’s (she and I ride the same size) so I enjoy putting them
together and they should be timeless.
A couple picture from a transcontinental trip in 1983 (previous owner)
xc1 by flog00, on Flickr
xc2 by flog00, on Flickr
I also told Nao to do anything else he sees fit, hence the leather chain slap deal. I'm not sure if I'll like it but I trust Nao, some stuff on the Tomii I wasn't sure but it is a perfect result IMO.
I'm going to put a modern drive train on it. I've found that I just ride the bikes with brifters etc. more often. Likely 2x11 as I did on my Tomii. Paul brakes and the VO style rando racks.
Probably 35mm Compass tires with 45mm Tanaka or Honjo fenders.
Roberts is a well regarded builder, and Roberts was my Mom’s maiden name so
I think it’s cool to have one.
All my bikes will eventually be my daughter Sarah’s (she and I ride the same size) so I enjoy putting them
together and they should be timeless.
A couple picture from a transcontinental trip in 1983 (previous owner)
xc1 by flog00, on Flickr
xc2 by flog00, on Flickr
Last edited by Flog00; 10-19-15 at 05:51 PM.
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I feel that if you are going to renovate a frame, the renovation should exceed the original in all ways. You have done exactly that. Very, very nice. I never, ever, ever expected that I'd agree with adding a kick-stand plate, but you have changed my mind!
What is the serial number of your Roberts?
Please post more pics!
What is the serial number of your Roberts?
Please post more pics!
serial is 680
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Back in the early 70s, it became fashionable to reduce the number of brazeons on frames and clamp all of the components on. I believe it was the good folks at Colnago that pushed this fashion trend on us. Their stated reasoning was that it's bad for the tubes to heat them up and stick parts to them. The real reason was simply that brazeons cost money and fewer brazeons make for more profit. It's the same reason that Colnago came out with straight blades on forks. It costs money (time) to bend fork blades.
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Bikes: 07 Vanilla, 98 IRD road frame built up with 25th Ann DA, Surly cross check with 105 comp, 78 Raleigh Comp GS, 85 Centurionelli
Thanks for sharing these, I saw the pics on Flickr and wondered what he was working on. It's a real treat to see the mods in raw steel. Neat project!
#25
What the thought on racks for it?
Here I'd forgotten that I stood on my head to read my sn to help resolve the 680 vs 089 issue. These bikes have great details and you've upped the ante.
Here I'd forgotten that I stood on my head to read my sn to help resolve the 680 vs 089 issue. These bikes have great details and you've upped the ante.








