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Mumonkan 08-30-15 06:49 AM

zero setback post
 
is there a 90s era silver post with zero setback that i dont know about?

i need one with a 27.2 diameter, a c-record aero post with no setback would be perfect but im pretty sure that doesnt exist.

has short legs, wants to keep it period(ish)

posted this in 41 by accident but noones moving it over here so im reposting, deal with it.

RobbieTunes 09-05-15 04:59 AM

Thomson Elite is all that comes to mind.
There were some by American Classic, and I think Ritchey made one, but I'm not sure.
I'd just get the Thomson and call it a day.
My 2cents, and keep the change.

kunsunoke 09-05-15 05:40 AM

Kalloy also makes an Uno seatpost in zero offset. It comes in a bunch of different seat-tube diameters, too. Only drawback is that it is made in the ROC and doesn't technically qualify as C&V hardware.

Ayers 09-05-15 06:02 AM

Thomson are about as light weight as anything and made in USA. Fantastic quality.

bikemig 09-05-15 06:12 AM

I have a NOS thomson elite in silver 27.2 x 250 that I should think about getting rid of. PM me if you're interested.

revcp 09-05-15 11:03 AM

+1 on the Thomson Elite. I just put a 0 setback on my Team Miyata. Rode it for the first time yesterday. It's perfect. Light and attractive, incrementally adjustable.

dddd 09-05-15 12:28 PM

It's refreshing to hear of C&Vers who use and have used zero-offset posts.

For years, all I usually heard of was from those looking for seemingly ever-more offset, which to me makes a road bike into, ...something else.

I'm 55 now. I've noticed that with a more-forward saddle, a more comfortable reach to the bars is achievable without having to shorten the stem extension (which would tend to overly quicken the steering feel of many a C&V frame). The forward saddle also rotates the rider's lower body forward, such that a more aero position is had with less bending at the waist. The rider is also rewarded with a quicker and less-strenuous transition to a standing position for attacking steep grades, which allows more-frequent adjustment to one's position in response to terrain.

Here in this crowd though, I must be preaching to the choir, and to those who perhaps perhaps ride on frames built to the large side.
<<<So let's see your C&V bikes set up with zero-offset fitting!>>>

The build below typifies one of my fit re-doings, since this frame is large and the stem was increased from an 80 to a 115:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8087/...4e22f069_c.jpg

mikemowbz 09-05-15 02:13 PM

To respond to the OP's question:

Syncros made a very nice zero-offset post in the 1990s, in both alloy and ti. Aesthetically hard to beat, and period correct - another option.

Can be had at reasonable prices, especially if you don't need a lot of length (they're popular with the vintage MTB crowd, so short/cut ones won't do for many potential buyers).

RobbieTunes 09-05-15 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by dddd (Post 18140674)
I've noticed that with a more-forward saddle, a more comfortable reach to the bars is achievable without having to shorten the stem extension (which would tend to overly quicken the steering feel of many a C&V frame). The forward saddle also rotates the rider's lower body forward, such that a more aero position is had with less bending at the waist. The rider is also rewarded with a quicker and less-strenuous transition to a standing position for attacking steep grades, which allows more-frequent adjustment to one's position in response to terrain.

Is that another way of saying, when you tire and fall forward, it's an inch or so easier? Don't ask me why this came to my mind so quickly.....:thumb:

RobbieTunes 09-05-15 03:03 PM

I just stripped a bike that had a nice older zero-setback, but not sure how old. It was a Suntour XC, which seems mountain? It was 26.8.

crank_addict 09-05-15 06:22 PM

Ringle

Grand Bois 09-05-15 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by revcp (Post 18140499)
+1 on the Thomson Elite. I just put a 0 setback on my Team Miyata. Rode it for the first time yesterday. It's perfect. Light and attractive, incrementally adjustable.

Adjustment is not incremental and that's a good thing.

icepick_trotsky 09-05-15 10:12 PM

Velo Orange has one. Not C&V, but a looker.

Wulf 09-05-15 10:35 PM

Weyless from the early 70s can be found occasionally and someone else is making them now.

dddd 09-05-15 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 18140936)
Is that another way of saying, when you tire and fall forward, it's an inch or so easier? Don't ask me why this came to my mind so quickly.....:thumb:

I suppose if we wanted to admit to having reached the point of tiredness just from riding a bike, the argument could be made that as the ride duration increases (and as the pedaling intensity thus decreases), that a more rearward saddle position would take weight off of one's arms.
It's an argument I've put forward myself!

But I've ridden a good many bikes where the saddle being moved forward seemed to cure a challenged fit, which was so much easier than messing with stem length and which made the bike more spirited and more fun to ride.

On this bike, I went too far. I used the bike for a 68 mile ride where the last 25 miles was tilted downhill, which left my arms in agony for the last half-hour. It should be obvius from the photo that this very steep-angled bike was a very poor fit for me from the get-go, but that didn't stop me from trying, and I did take on the steep Iowa Hill climb without stopping during the mile 25 to mile 30 section of the ride. The frame angles are so steep that the stem is seen to point down, and I did also shorten the stem from 120 to 100mm to make it ridable.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7653/...6449aa8b_c.jpg

revcp 09-08-15 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Grand Bois (Post 18141593)
Adjustment is not incremental and that's a good thing.

Correct. Bad choice of words on my part. Infinitely adjustable?


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