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Old 10-30-15, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rhm
Yeah, well... I don't think anyone's mentioned the greatest song writer I can think of (for one random metric: wikipedia has a page devoted to each of 130 of his songs).


I don't always require great songwriting, though. Today I'm listening to "Pure Mania" by the Vibrators.
Rick Astley?

Never gonna give you up...never gonna let you go...
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I guess no one else was listening to rockabilly back in the 70's? No mentions of Robert Gordon, Link Wray. We even brought Tex Rubinowitz and the Bad Boys down from DC to perform in our basement. Not great in the songwriting sense, but fun music.
I think the importance of Link Wray’s influence on modern rock is greatly understated, Rumble set the bar for everything that came afterwards, power chords, distortion and feedback.
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Originally Posted by Ex Pres
I guess no one else was listening to rockabilly back in the 70's? No mentions of Robert Gordon, Link Wray. We even brought Tex Rubinowitz and the Bad Boys down from DC to perform in our basement. Not great in the songwriting sense, but fun music.

And since we're on the Stones and under the influence, one of my favorite tunes from them:
Dead Flowers
I like the Gram Parsons version a lot more.
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You can debate this all you want, like everything else on here it’s just internet expertise and I get it…it’s fun. But if you asked Page himself he would tell you Clapton was the better player period and Clapton would probably say the opposite because there is no “better”; in Yoda-speak there just is. Clapton has kept himself relevant by being a bit eclectic, forays into J.J. Cale, Bob Marley and such but he was always a student of the blues.
Jimi Hendtix was once asked in an interview "how does it feel to be called the greatest Guitar player in the World"? His response was "Why don't you ask Rory Gallagher". I tend to agree.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
Rick Astley?

Never gonna give you up...never gonna let you go...
LOL, that’s too funny, what did they call that trend when you were tricked into clicking a link and that music video came on instead. It was funny the first two times…
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Originally Posted by St33lWh33ls
I think the importance of Link Wray’s influence on modern rock is greatly understated, Rumble set the bar for everything that came afterwards, power chords, distortion and feedback.
Don't forget reverb...
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LOL, that’s too funny, what did they call that trend when you were tricked into clicking a link and that music video came on instead. It was funny the first two times…
The rick roll!
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Originally Posted by rhm
Yeah, well... I don't think anyone's mentioned the greatest song writer I can think of...
Ummm, let's see…I think Dylan has been mentioned. And Cole Porter.
Anybody mention Irving Berlin yet?
Guy Lombardo? :>
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I thought rhm was referencing Irving Berlin...but it's not him. Woody Gurthrie was mentioned. So I looked up song writer 130 wikipedia pages and it's Ray Davies.

RHM...I mentioned Davies at least twice in this thread (as you know I would). I recognize that Lennon/Mcartney had more mass appeal to their song writing, and the Beatles were much better on harmonies and likely better musicians, but I do think Davies is probably the most talented song writer in rock. Dylan and Zevon are also right there for me. As far as rock...Chuck Berry and Didley (and Turner, who is amazing musically, but I think not there on song writing) basically created the genre, so it's hard not to give them the most credit.
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Yeah. Warren Zevon. Nobody wrote more interesting and weird lyrics than him.
Becker & Fagen wrote many fine and smart lyrics too.
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Originally Posted by Wileyone
Jimi Hendtix was once asked in an interview "how does it feel to be called the greatest Guitar player in the World"? His response was "Why don't you ask Rory Gallagher". I tend to agree.
It’s the same old story, I don’t think Hendrix was better than Clapton, he was just a different kind of player. It makes for good legend and mythology though, Hendrix burned bright and burned quick. Hendrix also gave SRV his mojo, he built on it and made it his own.


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Originally Posted by rootboy
Yeah. Warren Zevon. Nobody wrote more interesting and weird lyrics than him.
Becker & Fagen wrote many fine and smart lyrics too.
Both made my list of favorite song writers.
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Originally Posted by iab
I like the Social Distortion.

Don't know about the "greatest" song writers, but the single greatest line is; I wasn't born as much as I fell out
What a coincidence -- that gem was on my local college radio station last night. I could almost sing along word for word, but it's been a few years since I'd last put it on.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I like the Gram Parsons version a lot more.
I like that he introduced us to Emmylou Harris.
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Originally Posted by St33lWh33ls
It’s the same old story, I don’t think Hendrix was better than Clapton, he was just a different kind of player. It makes for good legend and mythology though, Hendrix burned bright and burned quick. Hendrix also gave SRV his mojo, he built on it and made it his own.


In the same vein, Phil Volk recounts meeting Jimi Hendrix in 1965:

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Originally Posted by seypat
Out of all the famous musicians I have seen live, Clapton was the only one that was disappointing. Of course, his opening band was Buckwheat Zydeco. It's hard to follow that and not look dull!
I saw the opposite at Cameron Indoor Stadium on Duke's campus. Graham Parsons and the Shot was playing, but 3 songs in, Clapton came on stage and asked the audience to "show your stuff for this great songwriter and band," then asked Parsons if he could sit in. He played one song with them and then 2+ hours after that. He was not long out of rehab, the khaki/Chuck Taylor era, Rolex on the wrist. Small venue by most comparisons, I suppose, and he lit it up. They had to use dry ice to keep the keyboards cool on Layla. I couldn't hear for 3 days.
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Years ago I attended a concert at the New Orleans Jazzfest that featured Al Green and the Fabulous Thunderbirds. Turns out at the last minute the birds couldn’t make it so they gave us this guy instead…

He was much older of course and had a few more songs under his belt.

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There are many “unknown or little known guitarist” here’s one…

Paris, Texas.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
. I couldn't hear for 3 days.
There's an interesting interjection. Been there, done that. Many times.
But one thing I appreciated about the Garcia/ Weir guitar duo was that it was loud,
so loud I could feel it in my lower back and kidneys, but after the show, in 1974,
my ears were just fine. They tuned their 400+ speakers just like that.
So their fans wouldn't go deaf. I can't blame them for any hearing loss.
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Originally Posted by iab
cover art alone on LC is better than anything by the pistols.
My favorite cover: Pleasant Dreams by the Ramones.

Irony in art. Someone stole the poster from me.



...and this one. I was a UDXL-II fan. Still am.


...and this one. I suspect a previous roommate, who also "disappeared" my Tony Lama's and a tabletop hockey game.



As far as comparing the Beatles and The Who, apples and oranges. Benson did Abbey Road, he'd never do something like Who's Next.
For those who mentioned Parliament, EW&F, check out Benson's soundtrack to Good King Bad.

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Originally Posted by rhm
In the same vein, Phil Volk recounts meeting Jimi Hendrix in 1964:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko61sy5AdC0
Every musician was-is influenced by their contemporaries-predecessors, this is certainly nothing new.


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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Paris, Texas.
Yep, he did numerous soundtracks, he is a master of stringed instruments.

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Herb Alpert did a great cover of "a taste of honey," on an album that had another great cover....


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Originally Posted by St33lWh33ls
Years ago I attended a concert at the New Orleans Jazzfest that featured Al Green and the Fabulous Thunderbirds. Turns out at the last minute the birds couldn’t make it so they gave us this guy instead…

He was much older of course and had a few more songs under his belt.
Finally, a mention of The Fabulous Thunderbirds! Great live band. Too band Kim Wilson got fat and bald so fast. Not what you want from your front man. The dude was a master on the harmonica as well and Jimmy Vaughn's guitar. Man, they could bring it live.
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Originally Posted by seypat
Finally, a mention of The Fabulous Thunderbirds! Great live band. Too band Kim Wilson got fat and bald so fast. Not what you want from your front man. The dude was a master on the harmonica as well and Jimmy Vaughn's guitar. Man, they could bring it live.
Yeah, their day has come and gone. I saw them live more than a couple times and never got a stinker show.

If traditional Texas blues is your thing check out this album with Collins, Copeland and Cray. Collins and Copeland are from Texas and they really show their stuff on this album.

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