Hi everyone! does anyone can help me with this one? year, model, whatever....

I've no direct advice about the production year, but you might narrow things down a bit if you hunt around Velobase for the various parts. This, of course, assumes that (most of) the parts are original to your bike.

Looks to be a European model offering. Top tube cable guides may suggest a very early 80's possibility.

not high end but functional from the looks of it. Search the history of Bianchi for when Piaggio became associated with them.

Piaggio is an Italian manufacture of mopeds, Vespa scooters plus Parilla and Moto Guzzi motorcycles among other products.

They took over the Bianchi bicycle brand in 1980. For a number of years after that Bianchi bikes had Piaggio stickers on them. They eventually spun off Bianchi about 1984 but I'm not familiar with that part of the story.

My 1981 Bianchi Campione del Mondo



The bike that you have is probably not a "Piaggio" model, just has the Piaggop sticker on the head tube?

My guess is that it's and early 80's bike with the last generation of Huret Alvit derailleurs.

This style was called a "town bike" for commuting, shopping and casual riding. It was a less expensive European model as were most town bikes.

A quick Google search on Bianchi Piaggio came up with this:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#n...ianchi+piaggio

verktyg

Chas.

this is a european market model produced in the chiroda facility. frame constructed with agrati "am" lugset/bulge-formed head.

the huret gears are late enough that that they will be marked with a date code to give a specific year of manufacture.

That would make an update of my 1962 Bianchi Corsa lower-priced (and lower-weight) Varsity competitor, which also had a one-piece head tube and head lugs, a "gaspipe" frame, and Huret Allvit derailleurs.

Your Bianchi decals resemble those on my and Chas's 1981 Campione d'Italia and Campione del Mondo, respectively.

Thanks a lot i ll check it out!!

wow thanx for that but i still hope its an original piaggio sticker, im thinking of transforming it into a road bike. your campione del mondo is gorgeous!!

YEAH! Looking for bianchi Chiorda i found this one! im closer!!

Vintage BIANCHI chiorda 1980 - A vendre | 2ememain.be

YEAH! Looking for bianchi Chiorda i found this one! im closer!!

Vintage BIANCHI chiorda 1980 - A vendre | 2ememain.be

Thank you everyone, now i think its a Bianchi Chiorda from early 80s (i guess Chiorda was a brand that Bianchi bought, is it?), check this out

Vintage BIANCHI chiorda 1980 - A vendre | 2ememain.be

But if thats so, what does the piaggio sticker has to do? actually i found one with the Edoardo Bianchi aigle on the front tube (the one above) and another one with the piaggio sticker in it :


Forum Tonton Vélo ? Afficher le sujet - BIANCHI ou PIAGGIO?

this celeste one says its a Chiorda, it has lookalike i think Bianchi Chiorda 55cm | Retrospective Cycles

what do you think??? thanx everbody

Piaggio was a large Italian company. They bought a lot of smaller companies. They produced mopeds, Vespa and other brands of scooters plus several brands of motorcycles.

They bought Bianchi bicycles in 1980. Piaggio stickers were put on all Bianchi bikes for the next several years - maybe until 1984???

The sticker on your was put on at the factory.

Chiorda was a low priced brand of bikes made in Italy. It looks like they were bought by Bianchi back in the late 70's or early 80's.

Chiorda may or may not be a Bianchi model name.

Information on more expensive bikes is usually easier to find. It's going to be hard to find out much CORRECT information about a 35 year old low priced model.

Your bike looks like it's in very nice condition. Because it's a lower priced model most collectors would not have much interest in it.

The value is in riding and enjoying the bike.


verktyg

Chas.

Better eyes than mine have weighed in here.

I was thinking this was a much older bike with later decals applied, but it seems that actually this is just an alternate-factory Bianchi peculiarity from whatever date you'll find stamped somewhere on both front and rear derailers. Date format will be XX/XX, stamped in tiny, bold font.

It's a cool bike, imo best kept as original as is practical for your intended usage.

Yeah its a cool bike! thnx but actually i took out the mudguards and change the saddle. i dont find the date anywhere on the frame...

Hi again everyone! i took a look all over the bike and i just found this number: 50027. I look on the internet but found nothing...
I also took off the mudcaps to make it lighter and bought a new saddle, it is a san marco bianchi model in celeste, it will harmonize with the bike i think.

what do you think about the serial number?

Ah! and the sticker of the store it was bought. it says "Del Castillo" cycles mecanicien

Thanks in advance

dropouts are agrati item nr. 000.8002

How do you know the number? I searched on velobase but there is no results with this number

print catalogue

the frame's Agrati "AM" bulge-formed head and lugset as a group is item nr. 000.8040/U

the bulge-formed head separately is item nr. 000.8046

the seat lug separately is item nr. 022.8049

the fork tips separately are item nr. 000.8010

the bottom bracket shell separately is item nr. 000.8507

Chiorda manufactured top line road racing bicycles equipped with Campag NR in the sixties and early seventies. They sponsored a pro team:

https://astrocycloalpine.weebly.com/cycling-history.html (scroll down to Salvarini)

You might enjoy this interview with a pro race team mechanic who got his start at Chiorda:

https://www.bikeraceinfo.com/oralhist...azzalunga.html

This forum has a bit of a discussion regarding the marque here:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...rials-etc.html

Thank you, i ll check it out!

Bianchi and Chiorda:

Bianchi to relaunch the Chiorda brand

The only Chiorda bikes I saw were really trashy, worth of department stores. I didn't know but I'm not surprised they made high end bikes, too.

So you consider this one was a high end bike! thats good to hear

No, this isn't a high end frame. The relevant characteristic are the stamped rear dropouts that require a rear derailleur with a claw adapter. By the time of the Piaggio era (1980-1984) this type of dropout was pretty much restricted to entry level models. I would also expected a Piaggio era frame, to have brazed-on fittings for things like water bottle and shift levers, if it was mid-range or above.

I agree with the very early 1980s assessments.

Chiorda was a full range range, mass production manufacturer. They produced bicycles from entry level to professional racing models. They were one of the brands carried by the shop that I worked in and later managed, during the 1970s.