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The Golden Boy 12-29-15 09:34 PM

Kool Stop Shoes
 
So someone mentioned new Kool Stop 'vented' brake shoes- and I came across these:

http://www.koolstop.com/images/hs33p_index.jpg


These look outrageously cool, but they don't have posts for affixing to cantis or tightening on to calipers. I looked around on the Kool Stop site, but I don't see a smooth or threaded post shoe with the fins.

Anyone know anything about this type shoe in a usable form?


I do like the Yokozuna finned Matthauser shoes, but I'd love the silver finned shoes.

Aubergine 12-29-15 09:59 PM

Looks to me like they must use some sort of screw-in threaded post. What does the Kool Stop website say about it?

The Golden Boy 12-29-15 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Aubergine (Post 18422669)
Looks to me like they must use some sort of screw-in threaded post. What does the Kool Stop website say about it?

I suppose I should have included a link, hey?

There's not a lot of info with it...


Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977



http://www.koolstop.com/images/HS33PRO_pkg.jpg
ks-h33sa



HS-33 PRO

Our HS-33 Pro is a Kool CNC machined holder with our trick trials insert installed for professional Trials riders.
Features:

Rim Friendly Compounds

Pad Types Available:


For Compound Information Click Here

In the bottom of the first section "Holders With Pads Threaded"

Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977

Velocivixen 12-29-15 10:47 PM

I just read a thread on C & V earlier today about brake calipers for a Trek ???? Someone showed a closeup of the calipers where you attatch them differently. Maybe these require those types of calipers. I'll see if I can find the post.

Oh never mind. My mistake.


Update: so if you look on Kool Stop page right next to those finned pads are replacement pads. That page says they're replacement pads "for the popular Magura HS33 and HS11 brake systems:

http://www.koolstop.com/english/hs_33.html

So they must fit those types of brake systems. I looked them up and they look pretty different from what would be on a C & V bike.

dddd 12-30-15 12:41 AM

Could these simply be like standard road pad/holders, using a mounting bolt instead of a nut?

Nothing new about that, many contemporary brakes secure their holders that way.

So likely there is a bolt and the usual stack of spherical washers needed to mount them to a standard road caliper.

It doesn't look like these are adaptable for canti brake use, but maybe they offer a version for that?

The Golden Boy 12-30-15 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18422744)

Update: so if you look on Kool Stop page right next to those finned pads are replacement pads. That page says they're replacement pads "for the popular Magura HS33 and HS11 brake systems:

Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977

So they must fit those types of brake systems. I looked them up and they look pretty different from what would be on a C & V bike.

Thank you very much [MENTION=355580]Velocivixen[/MENTION]!

Hydraulic brakes! Got it. Magura model HS33. I get it. I thought the HS33 was a Kool Stop model number, not the nomenclature for the brake system.


http://www.magura.com/uploads/pics/p..._33_silver.jpg




Now, if they could just make those shoes for Cantilever and Caliper brakes!!!

OldsCOOL 12-30-15 08:05 AM

Offenhauser? Small block chevy valve covers? I like it.

Velocivixen 12-30-15 09:43 AM

[MENTION=174646]The Golden Boy[/MENTION] - those sure do look retro to me. Not sure if anything like that was ever on a C or V bike, but I like the look.

markk900 12-30-15 10:14 AM

Don't know why you couldn't adapt to any C&V system, canti's included. Main point being to get the correct length and thread of bolt to use with the pads. I've adapted a number of pads when I could not find originals and the main pain is getting the right sequence and thickness of adjusting washers (for canti's anyway).

I like those "offenhausers" too!

badger_biker 12-30-15 11:31 AM

Pardon my ignorance but for caliper brakes isn't it the heat build up of the rim that is the problem and not the pad? I'm thinking hot pads would throw a very minimal extra amount of heat to the rim than what the friction would be creating.

That being said they are 'cool' looking and I can see the benefit of pad cooling when you are dealing with hydraulic fluid that is in close contact with the pads.

The Golden Boy 12-30-15 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by badger_biker (Post 18423659)
Pardon my ignorance but for caliper brakes isn't it the heat build up of the rim that is the problem and not the pad? I'm thinking hot pads would throw a very minimal extra amount of heat to the rim than what the friction would be creating.

That being said they are 'cool' looking and I can see the benefit of pad cooling when you are dealing with hydraulic fluid that is in close contact with the pads.

Scott/Mathauser designed the pads with the explanation that the fins "cooled" the brakes.

They don't, but they look cool as all get out.

Chombi1 12-30-15 01:00 PM

Magura hydraulic brakes crried the "HS" designations, but the one I am familiar with were the HS66 and 77....

jyl 12-30-15 02:41 PM

Wow, those are great looking. I think they'd look good on many of my bikes.


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