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Old 12-29-15 | 09:34 PM
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So someone mentioned new Kool Stop 'vented' brake shoes- and I came across these:




These look outrageously cool, but they don't have posts for affixing to cantis or tightening on to calipers. I looked around on the Kool Stop site, but I don't see a smooth or threaded post shoe with the fins.

Anyone know anything about this type shoe in a usable form?


I do like the Yokozuna finned Matthauser shoes, but I'd love the silver finned shoes.
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Looks to me like they must use some sort of screw-in threaded post. What does the Kool Stop website say about it?
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Old 12-29-15 | 10:29 PM
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Looks to me like they must use some sort of screw-in threaded post. What does the Kool Stop website say about it?
I suppose I should have included a link, hey?

There's not a lot of info with it...


Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977



ks-h33sa



HS-33 PRO

Our HS-33 Pro is a Kool CNC machined holder with our trick trials insert installed for professional Trials riders.
Features:

Rim Friendly Compounds

Pad Types Available:


For Compound Information Click Here

In the bottom of the first section "Holders With Pads Threaded"

Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977
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I just read a thread on C & V earlier today about brake calipers for a Trek ???? Someone showed a closeup of the calipers where you attatch them differently. Maybe these require those types of calipers. I'll see if I can find the post.

Oh never mind. My mistake.


Update: so if you look on Kool Stop page right next to those finned pads are replacement pads. That page says they're replacement pads "for the popular Magura HS33 and HS11 brake systems:

https://www.koolstop.com/english/hs_33.html

So they must fit those types of brake systems. I looked them up and they look pretty different from what would be on a C & V bike.

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Old 12-30-15 | 12:41 AM
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Could these simply be like standard road pad/holders, using a mounting bolt instead of a nut?

Nothing new about that, many contemporary brakes secure their holders that way.

So likely there is a bolt and the usual stack of spherical washers needed to mount them to a standard road caliper.

It doesn't look like these are adaptable for canti brake use, but maybe they offer a version for that?
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Update: so if you look on Kool Stop page right next to those finned pads are replacement pads. That page says they're replacement pads "for the popular Magura HS33 and HS11 brake systems:

Kool Stop International - High Performance Bicycle Brake Pads Since 1977

So they must fit those types of brake systems. I looked them up and they look pretty different from what would be on a C & V bike.
Thank you very much [MENTION=355580]Velocivixen[/MENTION]!

Hydraulic brakes! Got it. Magura model HS33. I get it. I thought the HS33 was a Kool Stop model number, not the nomenclature for the brake system.







Now, if they could just make those shoes for Cantilever and Caliper brakes!!!
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[MENTION=174646]The Golden Boy[/MENTION] - those sure do look retro to me. Not sure if anything like that was ever on a C or V bike, but I like the look.
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Don't know why you couldn't adapt to any C&V system, canti's included. Main point being to get the correct length and thread of bolt to use with the pads. I've adapted a number of pads when I could not find originals and the main pain is getting the right sequence and thickness of adjusting washers (for canti's anyway).

I like those "offenhausers" too!
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Pardon my ignorance but for caliper brakes isn't it the heat build up of the rim that is the problem and not the pad? I'm thinking hot pads would throw a very minimal extra amount of heat to the rim than what the friction would be creating.

That being said they are 'cool' looking and I can see the benefit of pad cooling when you are dealing with hydraulic fluid that is in close contact with the pads.
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Pardon my ignorance but for caliper brakes isn't it the heat build up of the rim that is the problem and not the pad? I'm thinking hot pads would throw a very minimal extra amount of heat to the rim than what the friction would be creating.

That being said they are 'cool' looking and I can see the benefit of pad cooling when you are dealing with hydraulic fluid that is in close contact with the pads.
Scott/Mathauser designed the pads with the explanation that the fins "cooled" the brakes.

They don't, but they look cool as all get out.
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Magura hydraulic brakes crried the "HS" designations, but the one I am familiar with were the HS66 and 77....
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Wow, those are great looking. I think they'd look good on many of my bikes.
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