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Only the Modolo brake levers and Specialized touring pedals are vintage but I built my Rambouillet in the tradition of classic sports touring bicycles. With 73 and 72 degree head and seat tubes, 2 degree up-sloping top tube and 44.5 cm chain stays it has the geometry that encourages long rides. If I can't do the distance it will never be the bike's fault.




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This thread inspired me to measure some chainstays on the fleet. Interestingly, the relatively modern bikes that get ridden the most have 43cm-length stays. My 2020 Rivendell Roadini has 44cm stays, so a bit longer. My '74 Raleigh Int'l has 43cm stays. The only thing significantly shorter is my Lemond Zurich with 41cm stays (and I really like the way it rides; great climber and very stable descender).
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This thread inspired me to measure some chainstays on the fleet. Interestingly, the relatively modern bikes that get ridden the most have 43cm-length stays. My 2020 Rivendell Roadini has 44cm stays, so a bit longer. My '74 Raleigh Int'l has 43cm stays. The only thing significantly shorter is my Lemond Zurich with 41cm stays (and I really like the way it rides; great climber and very stable descender).
My favorite bike to ride is my Gios Compact Pro, which has 39.5CM chain stays. Really great bike to ride. But no way would I want that to make that a touring bike. I think the longer chainstays nowadays is due to increased tire sizes becoming more popular, and therefore, the really short chainstays are likely a thing of the past outside of TT specific bikes.
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This thread inspired me to measure some chainstays on the fleet. Interestingly, the relatively modern bikes that get ridden the most have 43cm-length stays. My 2020 Rivendell Roadini has 44cm stays, so a bit longer. My '74 Raleigh Int'l has 43cm stays. The only thing significantly shorter is my Lemond Zurich with 41cm stays (and I really like the way it rides; great climber and very stable descender).
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This is where I want to be with this 1981 Tom Kellogg Ross Signature as of today. There are some things I want to figure out and maybe change as some miles get put on, but for now, this is where I'm at with it.

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That looks pretty nice! Is it mostly as originally equipped? Actually, looking at it closer, it looks like all the parts belong on it, but I think maybe just the seatpost and possibly the stem came with the bike? Very nice.
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1985 League Fuji


I'd put the mid-80s Fuji Club / League in at the sportier end of the sport-touring continuum.
43.2 cm chainstays. Longer than the full race bikes (41 cm) but shorter than the touring bikes (44 cm).
73 degree parallel angles, vs race bikes (75s / 74h) and touring bikes (73s / 72h)
50 mm fork rake, in between race (40) and touring (65), yields 50 mm trail.
Single rear eyelets, none on the fork.
Standard reach sidepull brakes.
110 mm double crank.
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All I did was convert it from a 42x16 singlespeed to a 42x14-26 6-speed.
Full story here.
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1978 Davidson custom with first gen Dura Ace:

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Without scrolling back thru all of this, I did notice that there were several examples of the Centurion ProTour posted here, but that strikes me as more of a full-on touring bike than a sports tourer. For example:
I picked up a mid-70s SemiPro a couple of years ago, and I had thought that it slots better into this category (lighter tubing, single-eyelet dropouts, no posts for brakes, narrower gearing from factory).

But maybe it's not that simple, and my 21st-century perspective is biasing my categorization? I'm not in front of the bike to measure angles or chainstay length, but perhaps that's a better tell.
Honestly, mostly just looking for an excuse to repost a picture.

But maybe it's not that simple, and my 21st-century perspective is biasing my categorization? I'm not in front of the bike to measure angles or chainstay length, but perhaps that's a better tell.
Honestly, mostly just looking for an excuse to repost a picture.
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I'd put the mid-80s Fuji Club / League in at the sportier end of the sport-touring continuum.
43.2 cm chainstays. Longer than the full race bikes (41 cm) but shorter than the touring bikes (44 cm).
73 degree parallel angles, vs race bikes (75s / 74h) and touring bikes (73s / 72h)
50 mm fork rake, in between race (40) and touring (65), yields 50 mm trail.
Single rear eyelets, none on the fork.
Standard reach sidepull brakes.
110 mm double crank.
--Shannon
43.2 cm chainstays. Longer than the full race bikes (41 cm) but shorter than the touring bikes (44 cm).
73 degree parallel angles, vs race bikes (75s / 74h) and touring bikes (73s / 72h)
50 mm fork rake, in between race (40) and touring (65), yields 50 mm trail.
Single rear eyelets, none on the fork.
Standard reach sidepull brakes.
110 mm double crank.
--Shannon
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1979 Echelon Odyssey (built by Cherubim)

1989 Davidson Discovery

1983 Austro-Daimler Inter-10

1985 Raleigh Team USA

1987 Mercian Olympic

1989 Davidson Discovery

1983 Austro-Daimler Inter-10

1985 Raleigh Team USA

1987 Mercian Olympic

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i enjoyed reading through this thread and will add my own bikes at some point. but I came across this 3Rensho sport tourer today on the website of a Japanese pawn shop. I had no idea that Konno ever made bikes like these! I've never seen a San Rensho bike that wasn't either a track, road, or time trial before. I have to assume that based on the logo style and components that it dates from the 1970s or early 80s.

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Just curious: how does that Inter 10 compare to the others? I happen to have an Inter 10 (see post 501) and I've become rather fond of it, but I am not familiar with the others you posted.
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Thank you! That kind of confirms a conclusion I was about to come to, albeit reluctantly, after trying quite a few other bikes: it doesn't get much better than the Inter 10, at least not for the kind of riding I do.
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All nice pics. I find the sport tourers so much more comfortable as I’ve gotten older. Still quick, but more more relaxed. My older cannondale ST have a beautiful ride and put my old criterium frame to shame.
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Here's a pic of my Nishiki Olympic Tri-A. The frame is much stiffer than my otherwise similar Norco Monterey. I haven't carried anything heavy with this bike yet, but back when I would ride my Norco, I weighed 200+lb and would occasionally carry up to 35lb without an issue on the bike.
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For some odd reason, all of my favorite sports touring bikes are blue. I'm not going to run out of blue sports tourering bikes anytime soon since I have a blue 1968 Schwinn Paramount on the build queue.
I like them all but my favorite is likely the 1979 Trek 510:

1979 Trek 510

1970s Fuji Finest

1985 Cannondale ST 400
I like them all but my favorite is likely the 1979 Trek 510:

1979 Trek 510

1970s Fuji Finest

1985 Cannondale ST 400
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That stem is the business. One the best looking stems I've ever seen. What is it?
--Shannon