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bfuser19387 01-18-16 01:26 PM

Trek 710 project
 
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bikemig 01-18-16 01:31 PM

This really isn't bad. I'd touch it up and ride it.

I have two vintage treks in the build queue: a 1983 Trek 720 and a 1978 TX 900. The paint job for both bikes is in significantly worse shape than your bike. I'm thinking of having one of the 2 repainted and touching up the other one. You'd be surprised how good a bike can look if you find (or mix) the right touch up paint.

Lazyass 01-18-16 02:28 PM

I'm in the same boat with another frame. I'm most likely going to get it powdercoated and get some replacement decals and be done with it.

Pemetic2006 01-18-16 02:39 PM

Touch up. That blue is great.

inkandsilver 01-18-16 03:16 PM

If you want perfection, I could see painting it. I think that bike has some nice character.

Lascauxcaveman 01-18-16 04:03 PM

Ask your powder coat guy if he can do it without filling in the "Trek" embossed at the top of the seat stays. He should be able to.

Nothing rare or special about this frame, and it's pretty beat up, so I wouldn't hesitate to do it if it was mine and I wanted a nice looking, durable finish on it. If you like the original color, you can get a metalflake blue in PC pretty close to it, I'm sure.

Lazyass 01-18-16 04:06 PM

It would look fine powdercoated.


http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...p;d=1453145194

http://steelcoatings.com/wp-content/...509_090934.jpg

markwesti 01-18-16 09:09 PM

OK this is just me , I would get rid of those rack mnt. doughnuts . Then I would sand paper, Scotch Bright , putty filler , sand some more and paint your fav. color and clear coat . But that's just me . And be careful changing out those adjuster screws .

devinfan 01-18-16 09:36 PM

I think the paint is beautiful. The reason it's chipped up is because it's an old bike that's seen a lot of use. I've built up frames in far worse shape than that and they still ended up looking nice with new bar tape, etc. Just my 2 cents I think it looks about 10x cooler now than with a generic black powdercoat. However it's your bike so do as you see fit.

lostarchitect 01-18-16 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 18468864)
Nothing rare or special about this frame


I dunno. I think these older ones are not that common. Anyway, I have never seen a metal flake PC that looks even close to wet paint. I wouldn't PC it myself. It has a lot of character now and a new PC would reduce that to almost zero, in my opinion.

bikemig 01-18-16 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by lostarchitect (Post 18469480)
I dunno. I think these older ones are not that common. Anyway, I have never seen a metal flake PC that looks even close to wet paint. I wouldn't PC it myself. It has a lot of character now and a new PC would reduce that to almost zero, in my opinion.

Agreed; the 700 series are not that common and were not made I believe for too many years.

Lascauxcaveman 01-18-16 11:40 PM

http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by markwesti http://www.bikeforums.net/images/but...post-right.png
And be careful changing out those adjuster screws .





Originally Posted by engineerbob (Post 18469525)
How would that go badly?

Pretty badly bent on the ends, very difficult to thread out that way. I've still got one in my Grandis that won't come out. Best bet is to try and run them back a bit, then drew the bent parts off, then back out forward. Hopefully the screw heads on the axle side aren't all smushed.


Originally Posted by bikemig (Post 18469527)
Agreed; the 700 series are not that common and were not made I believe for too many years.

I've heard great things about them, I'm sure they're pretty great bikes but it seems they show up here quite a bit. Though I guess that may say more about here. But not so rare that you can't repaint it if you want.

SJX426 01-19-16 09:17 AM

700 series are not that common around these parts. I happened to come across one, 760, that was a project frame with rattle can paint job. The decals were masked off. Didn't have the original fork either.

WRT PC. There are good PC shops and hack PC shops. The good one around here is consumed with Military contracts and has effectively closed. He did great work of making sure the details didn't get buried in the thickness of the PC.

Your bike presents a challenge in deciding what to do about the paint. When I bought my Colnago, I was going to PC it. That was in 2009. It has not been touched as it is original only once and has tons of character, patina. From a distance, it looks pretty good. It will not be touched.

A Pinarello Tre Crime was picked up a couple of years ago. Not only were the decals missing but the pant was really shot. After stripping, the decision was deemed a good one. There was rust under the paint that was not visible. Having said that, we are not talking about Italian paint here but likely Imron. I stripped a 610 that was a super challenge. No rust under the paint. It too was a rattle canned to begin with and had rust under the rattle can paint but not the Imron.

My approach now is to leave well enough alone and determine if the bike is a keeper first. If it is, then I approach the question of "restoring" it wrt paint.

IMHO is that a 710 is worth restoring if you are going to keep it for a period of time. Don't remove any parts off the frame that are original regardless of what other say.

markwesti 01-19-16 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by engineerbob (Post 18469525)
How would that go badly?

Hey Bob , I said that because they appear to be bent with a mounged up thread , so if you were to just back it out it might get stuck and strip the i d thread . I would cut and file to get it all cleaned up before you back it out Also I didn't mean to say putty filler , I meant to say spot filler . spot filler is like a very thick primer and it comes in a tube (auto parts store should have it ) Glazing & Spot Putty 4.5 Oz at National Tool Warehouse to use it first give a good even sand then use the putty to fill the chipped areas , then lightly sand . I hope that helps . I like your frame .

The Golden Boy 01-19-16 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by markwesti (Post 18469436)
OK this is just me , I would get rid of those rack mnt. doughnuts . Then I would sand paper, Scotch Bright , putty filler , sand some more and paint your fav. color and clear coat . But that's just me . And be careful changing out those adjuster screws .

Why would you drew off the rack mounts on a touring frame?

The Golden Boy 01-19-16 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman (Post 18468864)
Ask your powder coat guy if he can do it without filling in the "Trek" embossed at the top of the seat stays. He should be able to.

Nothing rare or special about this frame, and it's pretty beat up, so I wouldn't hesitate to do it if it was mine and I wanted a nice looking, durable finish on it. If you like the original color, you can get a metalflake blue in PC pretty close to it, I'm sure.

I disagree- pre 1980 700 series bikes are pretty special all the way around.

The Golden Boy 01-19-16 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by engineerbob (Post 18468937)
The more I clean the frame, and see its imperfections up close, the more I like the idea of PC. Other than the "Trek" at the top of the seat stays, I don't need any identifiers: no "Reynolds" decals or even the "Trek" head tube badge. I know what the frame is, nobody else needs that information. Gloss black will work for me.

I talked to a shop in Boulder that can cold-set the rear triangle to 130mm from its current 127. It looks like I'll also need them to pull the BB's fixed cup.

Bob

If the bike isn't that special to you, I'll buy it from you. It seems a shame for it to have gone almost 40 years being an upper tier, Reynolds 531 Trek to just become a powdercoated nameless bike- with no prestige to it.

I'm proud to have old Treks. It's a global company that was started in a barn- this bike was made in that barn. There's an element of history to it, as well as being a cool, high end, functional bike.

lostarchitect 01-19-16 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by The Golden Boy (Post 18470659)
I disagree- pre 1980 700 series bikes are pretty special all the way around.


Absolutely. One of these days I will find a late 70's 7XX or 9XX in my size, at a price I can afford.

markwesti 01-19-16 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by The Golden Boy (Post 18470651)
Why would you drew off the rack mounts on a touring frame?

OK , I think I know what you mean GB . Like I said " it's just me " . Besides that they mock me .
Bob , I just put a set of Tektro double pivot brakes on my Centurion Ironman . Not period correct , but they look and work really good and they didn't break the bank .

rossiny 01-19-16 04:05 PM

I think it is great what you are doing. I did that with a Raleigh super course with capella lugs. I built with some new and some new old stock. It has a 8 speed with brifters, dura ace. What I don't like personally is the fixxy craze. I just don't get it. Wouldn't u rather have gears?? make sure the guy u use for the powder coat is reputable. I had mind done by an ex body shop man {so he claimed ** and the clear coat is all peeling and never seemed to dry after weeks. so I may have to tear down again.. I am new to this vintage bike stuff, but the 710 is not too common. I have seen 400,311, never a 710

3speedslow 01-19-16 07:45 PM

^^ Well personally, I get the Fixed Gear bike. They have been rolling on the roads for longer then most of us.

Try and find out what we are about.

Now, back to that great looking 710. I say run like you got it.

3speedslow 01-19-16 08:25 PM

HS included?

3speedslow 01-19-16 08:41 PM

Not too shabby.

bikemig 01-19-16 08:44 PM

To the OP: I'm in the process of refurbishing a 1978 Trek TX900 and the paint job is in worse shape than yours. I think you will be happily surprised by how good it will look once you touch it up. Plus if you don't like the way it looks afterwards, you can still go through the repaint and find the decals and stickers.

bikemig 01-19-16 09:05 PM

I think that's a plus as well. I have one very pristine classic bike I honestly don't ride as much as I should because it is in such great shape. I'm looking forward to riding the heck out of the TX900 because it already has a few battle scars.

exmechanic89 01-19-16 09:27 PM

Im not a fan of powder coating bike frames, they look like they're covered with a thick coat of plastic to me when they're done. That aside though I'd keep the original finish on that Trek anyway, I dont mind a few paint scrapes/scratches/chips. :)

tmh657 01-19-16 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by engineerbob (Post 18472076)
It turns out that I will not need to have the frame cold-set. I bought a set of wheels (700C Shimano road/cross wheel set 9sp. 32 hole. Mavic Reflex SUP rims) off of C/L tonight, and the rear fits into the dropouts with little effort.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=499360

Yep. My '81 716 has a 5700 group on it and no problem putting the rear wheel in. It has no seat tube decal or any trace it was ever there but the paint is quite nice. Go figure. I like running the 32's on it.

http://i816.photobucket.com/albums/z...psd66d95f3.jpg

mountaindave 01-19-16 10:52 PM

I'll second the vote for touching up paint and not worrying about putting "the first scratch" on it. I've touched up a bike in better shape and it is a great 5-footer (looks good from 5 feet away). You can of course spot the touch-ups close up, but I'm just happy knowing they are protecting the bike from rust. If yours has no rust, touch it up and let the remaining Imron paint continue to protect it.

My 2 cents

bikemig 02-05-16 07:51 PM

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tmh657 02-05-16 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by engineerbob (Post 18515273)
I'm looking for a set of brakes. The problem is that the front requires 55mm of reach, whereas the rear needs 45mm. I haven't found a set covering that range. What would you suggest?

I remember this situation. I used the 5700 caliper on the rear since I was using the entire group and got this for the front since I needed to build the bike quickly for travel. There may be more elegant or classic and vintage options.

Shimano Ultegra R650 Road Brake Caliper | Chain Reaction Cycles


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