So I just innocently stopped by to ask some questions about a bike I bought. Then I thought, what harm could come from reading a few threads while I'm here? So I saw a lot of beautiful old bikes. Next thing I know, I know I'm bringing home another frameset.

I believe this one is a 1982 Trek 614.



Thanks a lot, C&V!

Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

Nice frameset.

Uh-oh, there goes the parts bin! Very nice frame. Hope you have a fun build!

is nice frame. I had one steel trek 512 i had ride that bike some but in the end i sold the bike. Is was too tall for me.

Bikes like this or frames old steel is very hard to find.

Well, that's kind of what happened. The other bike was a Pinarello with a Superbe group and I wanted to rebuild it with new Campy stuff, so I had all these Superbe parts and nothing to do with them. Then I saw this frame and it seemed like a good match. I thought it would be a much longer search. I hadn't even taken the parts off the other bike yet when I found this one.

The big question now is how do I find the right spindle to move a crank from an Italian bottom bracket to a BSA bottom bracket?

If you find out you're missing one specific part, it's much more economical to buy an entire bike for that part. I do that all the time!

Congrats, it looks like a sweet frame. Don't forget, you can verify the year & model, by looking up the serial #, at vintage trek.

That is extremely cool, but as fate would have it mine falls in the missing page. It's at least an '82. The guy I bought it from claimed he was the second owner and the Reynolds 531 decal is intact, so I don't see any reason to doubt the seller's claim that it's a 614.

I buy that.

I'm starting to think the N+1 formula should be N+P+1 where P is the number of groups of components you have that you think belong together but aren't on any of your other bikes, though the upper limit where your partner leaves you would be reached much quicker that way. There's a local shop here having an "owner retirement" clearance and selling off their inventory. There were a few things I wanted but didn't buy because I knew I'd need a new bike to put them on.

My garage and basement attest that the above is an untrue statement. Not to mention the signature below.

N +1

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Chas. 9 of 10

I had one just like that - great riding bike, but was a bit small and sold it (always thinking of the tales of regret when selling such a beauty)

Welcome!

Joe

Paint job looks in great shape. What does the tubing sticker say? I picked up a 1984 Trek 610 last year; it's a great riding bike. Then I found a 1978 Trek TX900 this year and I couldn't resist.

We should start a borg thread . .

I'm not quite sure about the Italian bottom bracket question; looks like you have a working bottom bracket. Are you trying to figure out whether your existing cranks will work with the BB on the bike?

The serial number is missing? I have one of these (about to probably sell it to a fellow BF member) and the serial number is hard to discern but it's still there.
Nice bike.

You are a very bad man. Very bad man....


It appears Andy had a Superbe crankset on a Superbe Italian-threaded bottom bracket. All he needs to do is find the same length English bottom bracket and he should be fine?

Measure the length of the spindle, and you should be able to find an English (BSA) bottom bracket with the same length.

Can't undrink the Kool Aid. Welcome to the club!

Very nice gateway bike.

into the madness.......

Are you replacing the entire bottom bracket, or do you already have English thread cups for which you only need a spindle? If the latter, you may be able to use the spindle you already have; you'll just have some threads on the adjustable cup extending past the lockring. There's a good chance the chainline will still be fine, and you could put spacers behind the fixed cup and lockring to fine-tune things.

With bikes there's aspects of the enjoyment of biking or competition as well as technology and pride and ownership and function and form... then with C&V you get history involved. Some people see an old bike- some see an aesthetically beautiful Trek built in Waterloo WI brazed by Mike Appel or John Thompson...

Best of luck building it to your vision of awesome!

No, I can read the serial number just fine. The list on vintage-trek has a gap with a note saying there was a page missing in the list they got from Trek. Mine would have been on the missing page.

I was hoping that might work. I have a nicely working Superbe bottom bracket on the Pinarello and a nicely working unknown bottom bracket on the Trek, but the spindles have different length and taper. If I can just move the spindle that will make things a lot easier.

There are three or four pretty sloppy touch up spots, but you definitely have to be looking for them because most of the paint is outstanding. The Trek decal is also a bit messed up on one side. I suppose for a 34 year old bike, this is well above average condition.

Here's the Reynolds sticker and the two worst cosmetic blemishes.







Obviously, I can live with that.

The dropouts are SunTour GS, which further confirms the model identification.

This is a cool bike; reynolds 531 main triangle and Ishiwata mangy 10 fork and stays. I like it a lot.