![]() |
Originally Posted by seely
(Post 18675394)
I'll forewarn you that tire clearance on vintage touring bikes is usually very limited compared to today's standards. Due to the brake bridge on my Miyata 610 and 215, I can barely clear 32's with fenders, and don't have much more room at the bottom bracket either.
|
My 84 Voyageur is a work of art, considering it is mass produced.
|
Originally Posted by jefnvk
(Post 18676459)
What year is that? I've got an '82 currently ripped apart, with 1-1/4" Paselas waiting to go on it, is it something I need to worry about?
|
Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
(Post 18676037)
I think OP should just shop opportunistically - whatever comes along at a good price. Look for the cantis, the longish chain stays and give it a shot if it fits and it's cheap.
And don't overlook the Cannondale ST models. If you want the best mix of stiffness/lightness/stability, there you go. I'm a recent convert - and I still like a lugged steel touring bike, too - but I haven't ridden one that stacks up to a C-dale in those regards. Mine fits 35mm tires w/fenders, would probably go to 45mm without. |
I have a '84 Univega Gran Tourismo (canti brakes) that easily takes fenders and 27x1-1/4 Pasela TG tires.
Some of the late '70s 'sport tourers' work well. My old '75 Fuji S-10S works with fenders and 27x1-1/4 tires, and so would a later '70s Fuji America. Both have long-ish chainstays. |
I generally dislike my Surly Long Haul Trucker. But for pulling kids, it is the ultimate bike and I'm so glad I have it. Lately I've been pulling two trailers totaling a good 150 pounds-- a Burley carries my 5-year old which is attached to a Tag-a-long with my 8- year old (attached to the seat post of my Surly)
|
Love my 1988 GReen Schwinn Voyageur
|
Originally Posted by engineerbob
(Post 18683045)
I think that Univegas are under-appreciated, particularly the ones with Miyata frames. I'm very happy with mine.
Bob |
Originally Posted by vintagerando
(Post 18683054)
Love my 1988 GReen Schwinn Voyageur
|
Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
(Post 18674280)
I stole this from somewhere but most of these models will suit you and many of them are overlooked----I see cheap Nishikis and Univegas all the time and they are fantastic frames built in Japan.
Bruce Gordon Berthoud Mercian Bob Jackson Viliers Velo Paul Hewitt Ellis Briggs Woodrup Koga Bridgestone RB-T Bridgestone T-500 Bridgestone T-700 Centurion Pro Tour 15 Centurion Elite GT 15 Fuji Touring Series IV Fuji Touring Series V Kuwahara Caravan Lotus Odyssey Miyata 610 Miyata 1000 Nishiki Continental Nishiki Cresta GT Nishiki International (note, not all years are full CrMo or full touring) Nishiki Riviera GT Nishiki Seral Novara Randonee Panasonic PT-3500 Panasonic PT-5000 Panasonic Pro Touring Panasonic Touring Deluxe Raleigh Alyeska Raleigh Kodiak Raleigh Portage Raleigh Super Tourer Raleigh Touring 18 Schwinn Paramount P15-9 Tourer Schwinn Passage Schwinn Super Sport, 1981 Schwinn Voyageur/Voyageur SP Specialized Expedition Specialized Sequoia Trek 520 Trek 620 Trek 720 Univega Gran Turismo Univega Specialisima Roberts http://i.imgur.com/BKlpxSh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/QbFma9A.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VhhQAGn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TUvmc48.jpg http://i.imgur.com/OodyOQa.jpg |
Carrying your kid on the back, get a cargo bike. They are made for what you want.
|
Agreed. You'll save money this way (no need to upgrade later etc) and will have a safer more stable ride. Track down an extra cycle conversion. I built one and put a regular Topeka baby seat rack on it. It was fast and stable.
|
I made the list below several years ago when I was seeking a touring bike (for commuting; I finally ended up with a 1985 Ross Gran Tour). I'm sure I posted this before on one or more threads, but I can't find them now. I can't attest that the formatting from my Excel file transferred well, or that the links to pics are not broken, but I hope there is some useful information still.
[TABLE="width: 646"] [TR] [TD]Bridgestone[/TD] [TD]CB-0[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1990[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...3&d=1327866153[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bridgestone[/TD] [TD]T700[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/DSCN1102.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Centurion[/TD] [TD]Pro Tour[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1981[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...0&d=1151507965[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fuji[/TD] [TD]Touring[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1245923031[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff142/Head_High_and_Glassy/DSC02140.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1235015529[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...0&d=1269288644[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1270253147[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4040/...6da1c31b_o.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1302452352[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Koga Miyata[/TD] [TD]Randonneur[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1988[/TD] [TD]http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...k/IMG_2762.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Koga Miyata[/TD] [TD]Road Gentleman[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...Koga1Small.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Koga Miyata[/TD] [TD]Traveller[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1991[/TD] [TD]http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...67/photo-1.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1991[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...3&d=1333260691[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Kuwahara[/TD] [TD]Cascade[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1987[/TD] [TD]http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...010touring.JPG[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...11cascade5.JPG[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Lotus[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD="align: right"]1990[/TD] [TD]http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8075/1001706dy8.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Miyata[/TD] [TD="align: right"]210[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...8&d=1220966952[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...ata2100072.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/DSC00975.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Miyata[/TD] [TD="align: right"]610[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...7/P7290006.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/...-Converted.JPG[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://lh6.google.com/steve.drucker/...0/IMG_2612.JPG[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...10canti003.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...1&d=1228079759[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Miyata[/TD] [TD="align: right"]615[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1988[/TD] [TD]http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/q...n/DSC02003.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Miyata[/TD] [TD="align: right"]618[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1194814199[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Miyata[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...95/image-1.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n.../MIYAT1000.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1989[/TD] [TD]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/...85485a76_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1982[/TD] [TD]http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/w...a1000002-1.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1301621000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...6&d=1301621000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Miyata[/TD] [TD]700GT[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/DSCN1354.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Motobecane[/TD] [TD]Grand Tour[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1986[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...3&d=1162129948[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Motobecane[/TD] [TD]Grand Touring[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1974[/TD] [TD]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/...de2ba28fe8.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nishiki[/TD] [TD]Continental[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b4...0/DSC02393.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nishiki[/TD] [TD]Cresta[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9985/img1336kp5.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/100_4018.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1982[/TD] [TD]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8433/7...97e35235_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...8/IMG_0830.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nishiki[/TD] [TD]International[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1974[/TD] [TD]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/...f186b8efd2.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nishiki[/TD] [TD]Royale[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...hiki_petes.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nishiki[/TD] [TD]Seral[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3601/...2c98ac57_o.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Panasonic[/TD] [TD]Touring Deluxe[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...c/IMG_2524.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1302452340[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Peugeot[/TD] [TD]Alpin[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1989[/TD] [TD]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_T...0/alpin_05.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Peugeot[/TD] [TD]PX8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1980[/TD] [TD]http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b9db23b3127ccec751e37f874d00000040O08CZMm7Nq2Zg9vPg4/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Peugeot[/TD] [TD]Le Vagabond[/TD] [TD]80's[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/860344-Picked-up-a-Peugeot-Le-Vagabond http://s227.photobucket.com/user/lascauxcaveman/media/pugeotvag.jpg.html[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Raleigh[/TD] [TD]Alyeska[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1986[/TD] [TD]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...vesidesm-1.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3...agarageqo9.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/...7761f9.jpg?v=0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1986[/TD] [TD]http://i931.photobucket.com/albums/a...a/PB070052.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...2&d=1311286417[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...g/DSC08024.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Raleigh[/TD] [TD]Portage[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--2s-T6L0IyE/Ts6MlAeVxGI/AAAAAAAAGL8/U6RpSs3XV54/s800/IMG_0481.JPG[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Raleigh[/TD] [TD]Wyoming[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...7/IMAG0256.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...8&d=1327022031[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ross[/TD] [TD]Gran tour[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://www.flickr.com/photos/9142289@N04/908001888/ Old's'cool's Gran Tour[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Schwinn[/TD] [TD]Passage[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1986[/TD] [TD]http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...nsulaII076.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1254751780[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/...ce1d570a_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Schwinn[/TD] [TD]Sierra[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6086/...fd5a9097_z.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Schwinn[/TD] [TD]Voyageur[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://home.mchsi.com/~bhufford3/85voyageursp1s.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1988[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...9&d=1231462642[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/...de33bc47_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1986[/TD] [TD]http://gallery.a-symmetric.com/main....serialNumber=3[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1987[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1268707150[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1988[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1300387593[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]??[/TD] [TD]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...00/VSP_005.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Specialized[/TD] [TD]Expedition[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...6&d=1175353182[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...mer/3Exped.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...2&d=1247966014[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...mmer/tour2.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://gallery.agamemnon.unixboxen.n...1/IMG_0386.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...1&d=1297018824[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6012/...547e6f9e_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6047/6...6f1b8927_z.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8475/8...e4140e5b_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Trek[/TD] [TD="align: right"]520[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/images2/cc211-1Trek1.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b4.../DSC02303a.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...8/FILE0132.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c9...d/DSCI2438.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Trek[/TD] [TD="align: right"]613[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1981[/TD] [TD]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j7...icture202b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2584/...3d3c334e3c.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Trek[/TD] [TD="align: right"]620[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...0&d=1243942328[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...0&d=1248589625[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2461/...fda797_b_d.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/a...ek620front.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg193...jpg&res=medium[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Trek[/TD] [TD="align: right"]720[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1982[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1230934958[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3624/...5a3c8e8e_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/a...0/P9190026.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Trek[/TD] [TD="align: right"]728[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1982[/TD] [TD]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c1...0/IMGP2555.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Trek[/TD] [TD]TX700[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1978[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...2&d=1269918763[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Univega[/TD] [TD]Gran Turismo[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...ic/Univega.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...2/univega1.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1983[/TD] [TD]http://i35.tinypic.com/2rvzgb6.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1986[/TD] [TD]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...ker/Unifat.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1985[/TD] [TD]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3529/...2610149c_b.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1986[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...7&d=1302452352[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/IMG_5360.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]??[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...4&d=1335416868[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Univega[/TD] [TD]Specialissima[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2..._9913small.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Univega[/TD] [TD]Viva Touring[/TD] [TD]80s[/TD] [TD]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3543/...dc86e25d9f.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Velo Sport[/TD] [TD]Alpin[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1982[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...4&d=1247609674[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Velo Sport[/TD] [TD]Everest[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1987[/TD] [TD]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b4...0/DSC01960.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b4...0/DSC01970.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b4...0/IMG_0042.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1984[/TD] [TD]http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...3&d=1333260691[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] |
wow, old's'cool. cool table.
|
Whoa, thanks for all the excellent answers and advice, much appreciated! Whenever I get something together I'll be sure to share :)
|
| All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:23 PM. |
Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.